Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he also tell
the DP that he had already participated in open and public meetings on
this project?
Frank,
Let me confirm. Anything you get from UCD operatives will likely be
unmitigated bullshit!
The Penn team has twice told city officials in public testimony that the
Spruce Hill Zoning committee held "open and public forums." Melani, Andrew,
Karen, Lew and I from the list were present when this was first done Oct.
23. Also present were Barry Grossbach of that zoning committee and Chris
O'Donnell. I immediately sent an e-mail, Oct. 26, to SHCA for information
about these reported forums and posted that letter to the list. I NEVER GOT
A RESPONSE.
At the Nov 9, full commission meeting the Penn team added the lie that
another public meeting was planned for this week for the "Spruce Hill
neighborhood." We know now that this trick with SHCA was at the center of
that lie. Mike Hardy, Lindsay Johnston, Dan Deritis, Melani, Karen, Mary G
and I were present.
Because we have an active public list, several of us put information
together over the holiday weekend and discovered that SHCA was absolutely in
collusion by planning this without any notification to the public. SHCA
could have notified the public and its members after the Oct 23 astroturfing
was confirmed and before the Nov 13 attempt to give the Penn team cover.
There is no mistake with the dates here.
The fact that West is trying to spin the SHCA trickery as a great public
meeting is to be expected. He is on two UCD committees. Melani and
Lussenhop are also representing the community on UCD committees.
The thing about these lies is that we can rule out a mistake by any
newspaper reporter too. The lies were recorded testimony. While we
couldn't be at the SHCA collaboration supporting these lies, it sounds as
though Chris O'Donnell, who witnessed the lies Oct 23 by the Penn team, and
perhaps others present made sure that SHCA was confronted and confirmed
publicly, Tues was NOT a public meeting.
SHCA tried so hard to keep silent about this that they did not even disclose
Lussenhop's scheduled Tuesday appearance to their own members!! Again there
is no mistake because Barry Grossbach of SHCA was present when the false
testimony was first given Oct. 23. I assume he heard me tell the committee
then that these claims were false. As far as I am concerned, there is no
longer a question whether SHCA was used by Penn or is a full partner in
covering these lies to be used as evidence of false community engagement.
We are now in the phase when members of the barking cheese gang will come to
our list and call me and others liars. I and others will be nut cases
ranting about the hard volunteer work of SHCA which no one wants to hear.
Melani started immediately with her, no one wants to hear from the busy
bodies routine. And the great intellectual West (the bullshit King) is
supporting that Penn presented gobs of information like they had for "17
public meetings" about the UCD policy for Clark Park.
You, I and all other little people have a duty to give SHCA $20, watch daily
for all their meetings at the last minute, and be willing to cancel all
plans at the last minute if we discover trickery. We are supposed to accept
that it is our duty to catch them when it all boils down to simple
notification. I don't know if you remember that Tony's hard working FOCP
volunteers were repeatedly too stupid to announce meetings about a complete
redesign of the park last fall! This was to be ignored and what became the
barking cheese gang focused on my unwanted uncivil ranting that no one
wanted to hear. The pattern is always the same.
If the public had found out about the Tues scheme, SHCA would have
rescheduled their meeting for Lussenhop. The no show at Friends of 40th was
an example of an announced meeting being avoided. (It is the only meeting
that was ever announced in the UC Review so Lussenhop didn't show.) {When I
was on the Quality of Life Task Force, I was out of the state when I was
found guilty, a new policy was established, and the Task force was ended!
Outgoing SHCA President Cindy Roberts happened to be involved with that
leading that task force in 2001-2002.}
I wonder how long the public is going to continue to allow this pattern to
continue? Have Penn and the civic association leaders become so bold
because the people are afraid of Penn and barking cheese intimidation? How
can we allow this to continue without standing together as a community?
Take care,
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] What you mean 'public', community man?
And we all know he did exactly the opposite when he tried to get the
property de-listed. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he also tell the
DP that he had already participated in open and public meetings on this
project?
Frankus
Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible.
On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:23 PM, Anthony West wrote:
I have witnessed other developers of large and controversial projects go
beyond the statutory minimum. I have witnessed Lussenhop doing just
that, by grabbing all sorts of occasions that are "public" in the
everyday sense of the word, to begin a process of public dialog and
outreach on this project.
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