Tony, 
 
If you are willilng to bear witness that Lussenhop ran "open and public 
meetings", I will bear witness that that is totally untrue.  He spoke in front 
of a membership organization's election meeting, which was advertised only to 
the members, not to anyone who was not a member, and Lussenhop's presentation 
was not even on the agenda.  Even members were excluded if they chose not to 
attend the meeting because they were not interested in what was stated on the 
agenda. 
 
Lussenhop spoke to those who happened to be present, or who had heard by other 
means that he was going to speak. I knew to show up because the project 
archetect told the HC that Lussenhop was going to a "public" meeting the 
following Tuesday. 
 
Spruce Hill did not extend the opportunity to all interested parties to hear 
his presentation. That is not public. 
 
 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UC] What you mean 'public', community 
> man?> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:35:39 -0500> To: UnivCity@list.purple.com> > 
> Tony,> > This is the last message I will ever address to you. I don't > 
> understand why you and your group always have to make these things > 
> personal.> > I am in Atlanta staying again with a good friend who is having > 
> chemotherapy over the course of 4 months. That is more important to > me 
> right now than any neighborhood issue. How dare you use that as > the basis 
> of a snide comment. It's despicable. The rest of your > message is 
> unmitigated bullshit.> > Frank> > > On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:25 PM, Anthony 
> West wrote:> > > I have no idea what he told the DP, which I don't have a 
> regular > > chance to read. And I have deeply no idea what the difference is 
> > > between what he told the DP and what the DP wrote. Writing to fit > > 
> space is an unavoidable act of analysis, which no one practises > > 
> perfectly. In my experience -- which we have studied on UC-list, > > thanks 
> to Ray -- DP journalism is student journalism and is less > > reliable than 
> most journalism when it strays off campus and > > attempts to grapple with 
> adult life issues its reporters have not > > yet had any experience with.> >> 
> > In any event, as we all know, "open and public" is a loose term > > that 
> means all sorts of different things in all sorts of different > > contexts. 
> Your criticism is jejune unless you can specify the > > context. The back bar 
> at Dahlak is properly described as "open and > > public" in certain contexts, 
> but not in others.> >> > I bear witness that Lussenhop has participated in 
> open and public > > meetings. I have no idea if these meetings, or any 
> others, meet HC > > standards for "open and public," or even if HC has any 
> standards > > for its deliberations. All I can say is, he's out there. He's 
> not > > in Atlanta all the time.> >> > -- Tony West> >> >> >> And we all know 
> he did exactly the opposite when he tried to get > >> the property de-listed. 
> Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he also > >> tell the DP that he had 
> already participated in open and public > >> meetings on this project?> >>> 
> >> Frankus> >> Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible.> >>> >> >> > ----> > You are 
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