I actually agree with Liz, and with Karen as well. I do not like printed vulgarity and I try to avoid it myself. It was late at night and I must have been influenced by Frank who, a few hours earlier, had let fly exactly the same epithet at me, I notice. But it is my fault that I allowed myself to be influenced, not Frank's that he influenced me.

I do apologize to you, Karen for such pointless language. You did indeed write insulting nonsense, which did deserve to be pointed out. You don't usually, and I bet I won't often see you do so again. It's out of character for you

Furthermore, I never "left the list". Where did you get that idea? The list stopped accepting my posts, as it did those of several other people. Now it seems to be working again. Thank you, whoever helped fix it!

-- Tony West


Why the stretch?
Karen was speaking for herself.

I find it refreshing that she did not pretend to speak for others who may
(or not) be offended by bad language.

She did not drag other 'guilty' parties in.
She did not adopt the mantle of List Police.

I find Karen's posts to be specific and informative.

Best!
Liz


On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:05:43 -0500 Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
KAREN ALLEN wrote:
Tony,
DO NOT CURSE AT ME!!!!
I did not curse at you, and I will not tolerate you cursing at me.
In other circumstances, I'd be sympathetic to your complaint.

But remember, this is a list where cursing has happened in the past, where people other than Tony regularly insult others (a recent "assholes"' shot seems to have escaped your notice). And please recall that several people here-- need I name names?-- regularly insult the UC Neighbors list because it was set up to be a more civil, friendlier place.

In other words, you're demanding Tony follow a kind of civility that you don't demand from others, and on a mailing list where people seem to pride themselves on not being "censored." You haven't minded it when other people (including Tony) are cursed at. And you're on a list where asking for Special Treatment is _clearly_ not respected.

So I'm not impressed by this.





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