Craig,
I have to say that while I often value your posts and always look
forward to reading them, nothing you just wrote makes much sense.
I apologized once for imitating other people's rude language. But Karen
was wrong on a more important point of substance and you know it. You
don't aid civility by beating this dead horse.
Other people did ultimately fix some of UC-list's problems, which had
stopped it from being a public forum in any meaningful sense. They did
so because I complained. This was my public service to those who like to
use UC-list to orate about "public" this and "public" that, because I
want this public forum not to be pure baloney. Because I value your
words at their best (even if not tonight), I value this forum at all
times, for all people.
-- Tony West
Meaningful apology (?), when you try to catch Counselor Allen with a
deftless backhand.
The list was much more peaceful, during your absence, while your
re-emergence has been: (fill in any number of left-handed comments),
Euclid Jr.
When a free list stops accepting the posts of the managing-editor
of our local leading political intelligencer, you Tony should engage
either with charm or dollars a local great IT maven to remedy your
deficit, be it hardware or software based; I'm currently ruling out
mental illness as the basis.
It does not escape some of us how sophisticated software and computer
networks turn thought into print. That is what the Tayouns have been
doing with the Philly Record weekly for quite a few years.
On a list where so many members are helpful and considerate of total
strangers, you may want to humbly look inward as to why no one stepped
up to freely help you address your cyber limitations.
Apparently, you don't find this list important enough to have paid
your paper's CTO or other quality techno-dude/dudette to resolve your
failures-to-post to this great list.
Peace be with you, soon.
Craig
As to your inability to post
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UnivCity listserv <UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: [UC] What you mean 'public', community man?
I actually agree with Liz, and with Karen as well. I do not like
printed vulgarity and I try to avoid it myself. It was late at night
and I must have been influenced by Frank who, a few hours earlier, had
let fly exactly the same epithet at me, I notice. But it is my fault
that I allowed myself to be influenced, not Frank's that he influenced
me.
I do apologize to you, Karen for such pointless language. You did
indeed write insulting nonsense, which did deserve to be pointed out.
You don't usually, and I bet I won't often see you do so again. It's
out of character for you
Furthermore, I never "left the list". Where did you get that idea? The
list stopped accepting my posts, as it did those of several other
people. Now it seems to be working again. Thank you, whoever helped
fix it!
-- Tony West
> Why the stretch?
> Karen was speaking for herself.
>
> I find it refreshing that she did not pretend to speak for others
who may
> (or not) be offended by bad language.
>
> She did not drag other 'guilty' parties in.
> She did not adopt the mantle of List Police.
>
> I find Karen's posts to be specific and informative.
>
> Best!
> Liz
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:05:43 -0500 Brian Siano
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> writes:
> >> KAREN ALLEN wrote:
>> >>> >>> Tony,
>>> DO NOT CURSE AT ME!!!!
>>> >>> I did not curse at you, and I will not tolerate you cursing at
me. >>> >> In other circumstances, I'd be sympathetic to your complaint.
>>
>> But remember, this is a list where cursing has happened in the
past, >>
>> where people other than Tony regularly insult others (a recent >>
"assholes"' shot seems to have escaped your notice). And please >>
recall >> that several people here-- need I name names?-- regularly
insult the >> UC >> Neighbors list because it was set up to be a more
civil, friendlier >> place.
>>
>> In other words, you're demanding Tony follow a kind of civility
that >> you >> don't demand from others, and on a mailing list where
people seem to >>
>> pride themselves on not being "censored." You haven't minded it
when >>
>> other people (including Tony) are cursed at. And you're on a list
>> where >> asking for Special Treatment is _clearly_ not respected.
>>
>> So I'm not impressed by this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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