Thanks for posting this transcript. http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/12212007/transcript1.html

Barber's analysis and comments are extremely salient. I've thought a good bit about the loss of citizenship as the result of gross utilitarianism permeating society. There are units of pleasure and units of "getting ahead" in the lives of all consumers and very little life force left for citizenship or genuine community spirit; those things which bring real joy and real security.

But Barber's discussion of global capitalism was indeed illuminating and thought provoking. And his discussion about "infantilizing adults" resonated quite strongly with me, and concisely names a process which has been growing since the backlash against the hope of the Great Society.

Locally. anyone who has gone to the unveiling of any corporate Penn project in recent years has seen "the wish list" process; part of the manifestation of the "infantilizing" process in action. Here, our community is repeatedly told that inclusion, transparency, and accountability are not necessary in the new University Consumer District(UCD). Good consumers and good neighbors must dedicate their voice at "public meetings" or public places to shout out their wish list.

This paradigm insists that the principals of democratic systems are inefficient foolishness which will fail to make us "cleaner and safer." Community members must not talk about their needs as a community but about the community as a candy land destination. Yes, the community must be converted to a candy land for tourists and all of us consumers are reduced to yelling "gimme gimme." In this process, all the code words and phrases all say to our addicted consumers: "if you keep your place, you will get lots of trickle down corporate Penn wealth. "Historic preservation, cleaner and safer, and improving the neighborhood" all have that same intended meaning to the addicted. Like the sight of a needle excites cravings in a heroin addict, the sound of these code phrases excites the UCD candy land consumer.

The infantilized consumer views dissent as "sour grapes." Processaholics are seen and reduced, not as citizens voicing a fundamental duty to preserve and pass on a democratic system, but as losers who did not get "their way" at wish list time. I would defer to Tony West's excellent explanation of winners and losers in a "representative democracy."

The divisiveness that we have discussed on this list is simply another part of the infantilizing process. By insisting on secrecy and back room deals, the community is intentionally split by corporate manipulators and the intentional divisiveness in our community is portrayed as squabbling infants in a fight over candy, setting up the process to be used again and again by anointed experts.

But I believe, that had too large a percentage of us not already been infantilized; this community would have mobilized to put the brakes on this repeating and consistent local process. Instead of shouting out wishes each time like a candy addicted child and shouting code words like "historic preservation" and "cleaner and safer", we would have one message for corporate Penn: STOP TREATING US WITH CONTEMPT AS IF WE ARE NOTHING BUT SPOILED BRATS. Take your "revitalization" and "historic preservation" back to campus until your wolves conduct themselves like responsible citizens rather than as the candy men and women.

I really hope everyone on the list reads the transcript and considers Barber's analysis.

Glenn, a loud citizen





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Glenn wrote:
The thing that bothers me locally is, why do the anointed and Penn Real Estate keep getting bolder rather than embarrassed? And more globally, why do I hear the same stories about identical process problems repeating across the country. In my opinion, we need to be more vocal about demanding the fundamentals of appropriate process. Otherwise, the blueprint that keeps showing up to subvert a democratic system; a system being taken for granted, will eventually succeed.


I'm concerned about this as well. I believe one factor that contributes greatly to this erosion of process is the erosion of citizenship (our public civic life) -- which has become increasingly replaced by capitalism (our private consumerist lives).

yes, you've heard me say all that before. but I recently heard bill moyers interview an author who says the same thing. his name is benjamin barber and he just wrote a book called "CONSUMED: How Markets Corrupt Children, Infantilize Adults, and Swallow Citizens Whole."

listening to their conversation was illuminating -- it explores the relationship between democracy and capitalism (both of which are in trouble) on a local and global scale...

read the interview here:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/12212007/transcript1.html


excerpt:

...Capitalism has put democracy in trouble. Because
capitalism has tried to persuade us that being a private
consumer is enough. That a citizen is nothing more than a
consumer. That voting means spending your dollars
spreading around your private prejudices, your private
preferences. Not reaching public judgments. Not finding
common ground. Not making decisions about the social
consequences of private judgments, but just making the
private judgments. And letting it fall where it will.







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