I agree, there are many more important things than a binary compatiblity layer.
 I think Fink does a fine job of making ports easier, so Darwin should have no
trouble getting native versions of apps.  I was just trying to clarify what
Fink is and what it isn't.  It's kind of nice to have the linux compatibility
layer in FreeBSD, but, like you, I don't really use it much.  I'd rather have a
pony as well.

Ed

--- Peter da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dude, I was one of the original 386BSD patch kit developers, you know, the
> thing that became FreeBSD? I am aware of the difference between a compiled
> and a binary app.
> 
> > The original question was about running compiled apps on Darwin without
> > needing any recompile.  So, for instance, running the version of Gimp
> > that has been compiled for YellowDog Linux directly on Darwin.
> 
> Why do you care? You can already get a native Gimp binary from at least
> two places. I run FreeBSD, it's my UNIX platform of choice (sorry, Apple,
> until I can get rid of HFS+ and you get standard UNIX tape support working
> again you're no better than #3). The only Linux binary I run on FreeBSD
> is the occasional Mozilla port. Everything else, including gimp, runs
> native.  And virtually all the time the only difference between a source
> port and a binary package is how long it takes to install. What do I care,
> I'm not there while it's happening... that's what multitasking's for.
> 
> It's not that I don't know the difference, I don't care about it.
> 
> > A clearly defined and supported executable format, loader and runtime
> > environment made this possible on PeeCees.
> 
> Well, um, that's not really true. There's quite a bit of binary
> incompatibility between Linux versions. FreeBSD has mostly tracked
> Red Hat in the past.
> 
> > Do all versions (or most important
> > versions) of Linux on PPC use the same executable format etc.?  If so,
> > it makes this kind of project feasible.
> 
> But is it desirable?
> 
> Before doing this, I'd like to get a UFS-HFS+ compatibility that exposed
> finder info as macbinary forks and transparently stored them on non-HFS
> partitions. I'd like to get tape support working. I'd like to get a better
> partition editor, so you can split a partition without trashing the rest of
> the disk and without havingto run some carbon port of a commercial OS9
> utility. I'd like to get system call performance up. I'd like to get multiple
> swap directories working. I'd like a pony.
> 
> 
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