> Too me it all come down to how much you want to spend - I would 
> recommend anything with AGP slot and higher - be careful though as many 
> older G4s are 2 x or 4 x AGP which will become harder to find GPUs for 
> as 8x become the industry standard

Not sure what can be higher than an AGP slot.  Anyway, as long as there is
eBay, there will always be a supply of vintage and sub-vintage computer
components.  

I disagree about the industry standard part of your statement.  Not many
people (normal people) who buy computers these days need anything near an 8x
AGP speed.  C'mon, who is going to spend 500 dollars on a video card when
you can get one that is NEARLY as good for 50 bucks?  

I am straying off topic, sorry.

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From: Unsupported OS X [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Simon
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 01:52 AM
To: Unsupported OS X
Subject: Re: Panther on Upgraded PM 9600


With respect to hopefully not getting too far off topic......

I went through a very similar decision. I to have a frankenstien 9600 
lotsa RAM, Radeon 7K, ATA HDs, CDRW, etc but only a G3/300 I had read 
he specs and been sucked in before regarding "massive" improvements - 
Radeon is classic example - yes it improves video performance but not 
to a level where 10.2 or higher are (in my opinion) usable in a 
seriously normal work flow (flame away).

Over here in Aus we get shafted with price of products nearly Aus $800 
for G4 800 card, so I wen whole hog and bought a G5 - yes it is a big 
difference than what you are talkinh but I decided spending money on a 
half step was going to lead to yet another endless search for more 
speed (needless to say I bought 2 weeks too early and have "only" a 
single 1.8).

Too me it all come down to how much you want to spend - I would 
recommend anything with AGP slot and higher - be careful though as many 
older G4s are 2 x or 4 x AGP which will become harder to find GPUs for 
as 8x become the industry standard

My 9600 still lives under my bench, need it for SCSI and connecting to 
AppleTalk printer via LocalTalk bridge - it's running OS 9.1 again - so 
your old box will still have some useful life if you need these sorts 
of services. I have a dual input LCD screen so don't have two screens 
cluttering desk.

My 2 cents worth.

Seasons greetings.

Simon


On 20/12/2003, at 8:20 AM, JW Holmes wrote:

> I am at a decision point with my computer and I was wondering if anyone
> might provided me with some information to help in my decision. I
> currently have a PM 9600 upgraded with a Sonnet G3/500. I have 740 MB 
> Ram
> 2 SCSI drives (9 GB each) on ATTO card, and a ATI Rage 128 Video Card. 
> I
> run Jaguar (10.2.8), and I am considering moving upgrading to a Sonnet
> G4/700 and upgrading to Panther.
> My dilemma is this: would I be better off just buying a used PowerMac 
> G4/
> 500 for ~$450, or go ahead and get the Sonnet G4/700 for ~ $225 and
> install it.
> Right now 10.2.8 is very stable and I have not had any problems with 
> the
> machine. I would like a bit more speed but I don't play games so I 
> don't
> need blazing speed. I don't want to spend more than ~ 450 because I 
> have
> to buy Panther.
> Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> JW


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