Not to be a troll or anything - but have to ask. What is your definition of an online school?
There are plenty of regular (traditional) colleges that offer online (only) programs. I know for a fact that FSU (Florida State University - not a mom and pop shop and by every definition a real college) offers a full CS degree online - you never actually step foot on campus until you graduate. The only thing you do is show up for tests at a local community college. I only know about them because its one I researched when I still lived in Florida. I know there are others. I can also remember a huge sign on the highway advertising University of Florida for a MBA program. I could be wrong - but I don't believe the degrees had any designation saying "online" on them. FWIW - this model is very similar to WGU. Most college classes I have had don't place a high concentration on homework, and almost every one of them makes the determining factor the final exam. I would wonder if you would give any credence to a smaller school over a larger one. In a smaller school the students would have MORE time with their instructors. Anyone I have talked to that actually attended a full on university almost never actually talked to a professor - and the lecture might as well have been given online. If you trust the accreditation programs, and two universities are similarly credentialed - what would be the difference. If you don't like the online aspect of a private college - then why would it be OK for a different college that has a more recognizable name. Kind Regards, Aleksei On 25 March 2014 16:19, Grant Shipley <[email protected]> wrote: > Just throwing my hat in the ring and don't mean to offend anyone with my > comments here: > > I haven't lived in Utah for 10 years now. I do think there is sort of a > bubble and different mentality around getting a degree in Utah versus other > parts of the country. From my experience, it is more accepted to not have > a degree in Utah because other things in life get in the way -- Mission / > Marriage / having to work a full time job to support your family all before > graduating college. The average age of college graduates in Utah is *MUCH* > higher than other parts of the country. > > It always felt like getting your degree was 2nd to other life priorities > there. > > I have interviewed hundreds of people for jobs for my current employer and > I always give preference to someone with a formal degree from a recognized > school. TBH, when someone listed an online school or some other school on > their resume, it would actually do more harm in my mind versus not having a > degree. > > While you can get a job making a decent wage without a degree, it will hurt > you in the long run. How many high level executives do you see without a > degree? Sure, name off the exceptions like Bill Gates etc but those are > exceptions, not the norm. > > -- > gs > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Derek Caswell <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > I am not a hiring manager so I may not be the person to ask about this > but > > there is one thing that hasn't been brought up that I have noticed about > a > > college education. I have a BS in Information Technology from BYU and I > > don't regret getting that at all. There are a few things that the > education > > gave me that I really appreciate. They are a better overview of how the > > entire system works and the confidence in the fact that I finished the > > program. These have already been brought up. The last one, however, is > > something that has not been brought up. That is my increased ability to > > think and learn. This is something that I noticed as I went into the > > workforce. I have worked with a few people that went to Stephens Henager > or > > UoP. What I have noticed is that GENERALLY, it took them a lot longer to > > learn new concepts or a new system then it took someone that went to a > > college like BYU or UoU. Please don't get me wrong, I know that these are > > generalizations and there are plenty of exceptions out there. However, > > going through the educational experience that you get at a place like > BYU, > > forces you to improve on your ability to learn. Obviously, the hard > skills > > needed for the job are going to be the most important but soft skills > like > > this are also very important and having the degree from a more rigorous > > program can only help to show that. Don't forget about needing to be able > > to live up to the expectation though. > > > > My last comment is directed toward anyone who is trying to decide to get > a > > degree. The question was brought up about if someone should get a job or > go > > to school. I would say that if you can afford to do it without going > into a > > bunch of debt, do both. My ONLY regret about going to school is that I > > didn't work in the computer field while I was going through school so > that > > I could get that experience. Being a student can also make it a lot > easier > > to find an on campus programming job to give you that experience as well. > > > > Derek Caswell > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Michael Hart <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > I am just a lurker on this group but this conversation has been > > > fascinating and very timely. > > > > > > I currently work in the oilfield in Alberta Canada, I have taken many > > > courses at UVU in computer science, but was broke and had a family so I > > had > > > to make some more money. > > > > > > I paid off all my debt and am piling up money to go back to > school...but > > I > > > am extremely torn since I want the most bang for my buck and I want to > > > progress quickly back into the computer science field. > > > > > > If I go to the University of Alberta I figured that tuition and books > > will > > > be an additional $20k. > > > > > > I've made many Android apps, C# programs, PHP, JavaScript and the > > like...I > > > really want to come back but don't know anybody who is like minded so I > > > don't have a community to stay up all night "hacking" with. > > > > > > What would this group suggest? Go back to school or just go to > employers > > > and show them what I have done so far? > > > > > > Michael Hart > > > > > > MY BLOG: http://hartsoffice.wordpress.com/ > > > HOME PAGE: http://hartsoffice.com/ > > > TWITTER: http://twitter.com/TheHartsOffice > > > FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/michael.redxdeath > > > GOOGLE+: https://plus.google.com/108967967563278141587 > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Kyle Waters <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On 03/25/2014 11:16 AM, Justin Giboney wrote: > > > >> If they could come to you with something in their portfolio from > > > >> the course, what would it be? > > > > > > > > > > > > An SQL database driven webapp. Extra points for AJAX. That's what > > I'd > > > > like to see. Some employers would probably prefer certain > frameworks, > > > > or javascript libraries. I've noticed a lot of jobs for front end > > > > developers, so extra work on the UI could go a long ways in the > current > > > > job market. > > > > > > > > Kyle > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > UPHPU mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > > > > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > UPHPU mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > > > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > UPHPU mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > UPHPU mailing list > [email protected] > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > _______________________________________________ UPHPU mailing list [email protected] http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
