Oh right, running a local Nexus instance as a proxy is very valuable. Being
able to always reproduce previous builds and insulating your build process
from external failures is quite valuable.


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Cris J Holdorph <holdo...@unicon.net>
wrote:

> Well yes, that's all good and definitely encouraged for any maven project
> you are in control of.
>
> But I also think it's worth standing up an artifact repository at your own
> organization and having that 'mirror' every repository.  So that you
> actually don't go out and hit any repository directly yourself.  Instead
> you only hit your own artifact repository, and that repository in turn will
> hit the internet.  This is kind of the equivalent of fixing, at an
> organizational level the difference between a developer who has been around
> for a while and has a pretty full personal maven repo, and his builds work,
> and a new developer who has an empty personal maven repository and his
> build does not work.
>
> I'm NOT suggesting this is INSTEAD of putting things into central, but
> more of an additional thing an organization can do to help bring new
> developers on board.
>
> ---- Cris J H
>
>
> On 06/13/2014 11:01 AM, Andrew Petro wrote:
>
>> Cris,
>>
>> True, dependencies in Central can have dependencies on external repos.
>>
>> But that is at least discouraged:
>>
>> https://docs.sonatype.org/display/Repository/Sonatype+
>> OSS+Maven+Repository+Usage+Guide#SonatypeOSSMavenRepositoryUsageGuide-6.
>> CentralSyncRequirement
>>
>>
>> and in some happy future might even be enforced or at least mostly
>> respected such that getting a dependency from Central is an indication
>> that it doesn't have this problem.
>>
>> So, you're all right: getting the dependencies from Central doesn't
>> solve all problems, but the more dependencies are entirely realizable
>> via only-in-Central dependencies, the better.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/13/14, 12:54 PM, Cris J Holdorph wrote:
>>
>>> It's not just a simple matter of putting YOUR dependencies into
>>> central and not putting repositories into YOUR pom files.  With
>>> transitive dependencies, ESPECIALLY specific versions, this can happen
>>> through a dependency that came in from a transitive dependency.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>>   I specify I want to use "Foo" version "1.1".  At the time of my
>>> using it, it is in central, so I don't think anything more of it.
>>>
>>>   I do not notice, but Foo version 1.1, uses "bar" 2.0.
>>>
>>>   Bar 2.0 uses crud 3.0.
>>>
>>>   crud 3.0 specifies a respository in it's pom.xml file to go get
>>> "blah" version 1.2.3 from some weird repo.
>>>
>>>   Final result, my project is now dependent on some weird repo for
>>> version 1.2.3 of "blah".
>>>
>>> ---- Cris J H
>>>
>>> On 06/13/2014 09:57 AM, Eric Dalquist wrote:
>>>
>>>> This highlights the very real danger of adding extra repositories. It
>>>> may be more work up front to get all the deps you need into central but
>>>> it is very much worth it long term to avoid this sort of dependency hell
>>>> pain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Cris J Holdorph <holdo...@unicon.net
>>>> <mailto:holdo...@unicon.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     This is probably not your problem, but I thought I would share some
>>>>     recent experience with maven, repositories and dependency debugging.
>>>>
>>>>     I was trying to set up a local artifact repository to do mirroring
>>>>     of maven dependencies.  This is useful for dependencies that are not
>>>>     in central, that might disappear.
>>>>
>>>>     Anyway, to fully test my 'mirror' I started with an empty repository
>>>>     and would try to build my projects.  I discovered a really
>>>>     interesting situation.  Take a look at these two pom files from two
>>>>     different maven repos.
>>>>
>>>> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/__commons-dbcp/commons-dbcp/1.
>>>> 2.__2/commons-dbcp-1.2.2.pom
>>>>
>>>> <http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/commons-dbcp/commons-
>>>> dbcp/1.2.2/commons-dbcp-1.2.2.pom>
>>>>
>>>> http://jcenter.bintray.com/__commons-dbcp/commons-dbcp/1.2.
>>>> __2/#commons-dbcp-1.2.2.pom
>>>>
>>>> <http://jcenter.bintray.com/commons-dbcp/commons-dbcp/1.2.
>>>> 2/#commons-dbcp-1.2.2.pom>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Notice how the second one is different then the first.  I suspect
>>>>     the second one must have been autogenerated.  In any case though, it
>>>>     causes a really big problem if that is where the dependency gets
>>>>     pulled down from.
>>>>
>>>>     So, my overall point is, when you're starting from an empty maven
>>>>     repo, you can definitely get really weird and odd things happening.
>>>>       It can be really hard to debug.  (in the above problem, it
>>>>     'manifested' as a junit test failure about a missing class!)
>>>>
>>>>     ---- Cris J H
>>>>
>>>>     On 06/13/2014 09:37 AM, Drew Wills wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Folks,
>>>>
>>>>         I'm encountering a new Maven dependency issue with echcache.  It
>>>>         seems
>>>>         to happen always (small sample size) on a machine that
>>>> doesn't have
>>>>         these artifacts cached in the local repo.
>>>>
>>>>         These items do seem to be in m2 central.  I'm not sure how
>>>> Maven is
>>>>         getting the 'null:ehcache-web:jar:null' (see below) but I
>>>>         suspect it's a
>>>>         factor in the issue.
>>>>
>>>>         drew
>>>>
>>>>         ---
>>>>
>>>>         BUILD FAILED
>>>> /home/awills/Dropbox/Jasig/__portal/uPortal/build.xml:635: The
>>>>         following
>>>>         error occurred while executing this line:
>>>> /home/awills/Dropbox/Jasig/__portal/uPortal/build.xml:1437: The
>>>>         following
>>>>         error occurred while executing this line:
>>>> /home/awills/Dropbox/Jasig/__portal/uPortal/build.xml:1372: The
>>>>         following
>>>>         error occurred while executing this line:
>>>> /home/awills/Dropbox/Jasig/__portal/uPortal/build.xml:1315: The
>>>>         following
>>>>         error occurred while executing this line:
>>>> /home/awills/Dropbox/Jasig/__portal/uPortal/build.xml:1318: The
>>>>         following
>>>>         error occurred while executing this line:
>>>> /home/awills/Dropbox/Jasig/__portal/uPortal/build.xml:1375: The
>>>>         following
>>>>         error occurred while executing this line:
>>>> /home/awills/Dropbox/Jasig/__portal/uPortal/build.xml:1227:
>>>>         Unable to
>>>>         resolve artifact: Unable to get dependency information: Unable
>>>>         to read
>>>>         the metadata file for artifact
>>>>         'net.sf.ehcache:ehcache-web:__jar': Cannot
>>>>         find parent: net.sf.ehcache:ehcache-web-__parent for project:
>>>>         null:ehcache-web:jar:null for project null:ehcache-web:jar:null
>>>>             net.sf.ehcache:ehcache-web:__jar:2.0.4
>>>>
>>>>         from the specified remote repositories:
>>>>             central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2__),
>>>>             sonatype-nexus-snapshots
>>>> (https://oss.sonatype.org/__content/repositories/snapshots
>>>> <https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots>__),
>>>>             apache-snapshots (http://repository.apache.org/__snapshots
>>>>         <http://repository.apache.org/snapshots>)
>>>>
>>>>         Path to dependency:
>>>>               1) org.jasig.portal:uportal-war:__war:4.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>               2)
>>>> org.jasig.resourceserver:__resource-server-utils:jar:1.0.__38
>>>>
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