> On Aug 24, 2017, at 3:14 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> On 8/24/17 12:22 AM, Stephen MacLean via use-livecode wrote:
>> My point was that unfortunately that only means ~15% of currently active 
>> Android devices are fairly safe and Bob’s comment, while brief, was fair as 
>> far as it was concerned. Once Android hits iOS’s ~85% active devices on 
>> latest version of the os, then it wouldn’t be. I just don’t think that will 
>> happen anytime soon because of the way the OS is rolled out through 3rd 
>> parties for the most part.
> 
> Actually, I was trying to make the opposite point -- Google Play Services is 
> now on (at least) 93% of all Android devices. It runs on any Android 
> regardless of manufacturer or customized OS, provided the device is 
> authorized to access the Google Play Store. It's had over 5 billion downloads 
> and is, among other things, the security layer.
> 
> https://www.androidcentral.com/genius-google-play-services
> 
> It isn't only the "Google-made" phones that are protected, it's almost all of 
> them now.
> 


I think it’s important to understand exactly what Google Play Services is and 
isn’t. 

It provides a base API, like Windows .NET, that runs on a variety of Android 
versions giving developers something common to develop against. Google Play 
Services can and does update those API’s and also updates Google Apps and 
components such as WebKit. It also provides malware scanning and blocking 
similar to Windows Defender, i.e. it is a layer of security

It does NOT provide core OS security updates. Those are, except for Google’s 
Pixel and Nexus, incorporated and provided by the manufacturer as a patch level 
update to the OS. It is not THE security layer for Android, just a part of it. 

So while 93% of Android devices have a layer of protection, it would be like 
saying Windows XP or Mac OS X 10.6 or even unpatched Widows 10 or macOS are 
“protected” because they have a malware scanner/blocker running. Sure, it may 
blunt some/most of it, but they are still vulnerable. 

At least with Google Play Services you get updates to some API components like 
WebKit, although that only starts with Android 5.0. You don’t get that on iOS.

Also, just like other OS vendors, it’s rolling support. 4.4 is the last 
supported version for Google Play and Google warns that will change as newer 
versions come out.

See https://source.android.com/security/overview/updates-resources 
<https://source.android.com/security/overview/updates-resources> and 
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/ 
<https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/> for more details.

Sorry, this is getting long winded and probably pointless. To me, this isn’t 
about OS vs OS. You aren’t safe/secure/protected if you don’t fix the 
underlying problem.

Best,

Steve MacLean


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