Just to confuse you, my own experience may introduce a third
perspective. I was a programmer in the heroic days when all that was
available were barely symbolic machine code assemblers - I mean you
were lucky to be able to introduce a label that had a human-readable
name: at one point I wrote a 6000-line assembler program (which used
among other things LIFO stacks and recursion) without a single
comment, because there wasn't a comment feature in that Assembler. To
quote Mark Twain "the statements was interesting, but tough". I then
progressed to the 'high level' languages of the time, of which my
favourite was Algol (I suppose nowadays you could call Algol a
forerunner of Pascal?).
Anyway then my career took me away from the programming coal face for
several decades. Finally I decided to recycle myself as a programmer,
since that was the part of my job I had enjoyed the most, and I looked
for a fun way of doing it. I thought stuff like BASIC and VB
incredibly clunky, and stuff like 'C' seemed not far enough from the
old assembler days - OK you were no longer struggling with machine
code but you were still struggling with a non-human way of expressing
things. Already a Mac fan, I had a quick brush with Hypercard, then
SuperCard (at the time when they claimed a cross-platform version was
just around the corner) and finally to Revolution. And from the fun
point of view, I believe I made the right choice, and from the
productivity point of view I was amazed by the power of the thing -
still am. I was once a geek and paid to be a geek, but now I just want
to get on with producing stuff without all that tedious mucking about
just to prevent very simple structural errors etc. I am really happy
with xTalk and with the whole Rev thing...
Anyway I look forward to the article - good luck with the responses,
Richard.
Graham
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:58:35 -0800, Judy Perry <katheryn.swynf...@gmail.com
> wrote:
This could be really nice as a set of bookends, that is, a companion
piece
on new users who have never used anything else and Rev is their first
language (probably not as many of those people, though).
I'm loving your idea, though!
Judy
http://revined.blogspot.com
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com
wrote:
I'm considering putting an article together for revJournal.com
about the
joys and pitfalls of learning Rev from the perspective of those who
already
had proficiency in at least one other language before giving Rev a
try.
The challenge here is that I've been using Rev so long that I'm
close to
completely useless for this other than as an editor and to provide
some
structure. As I envision it, the meat of this article would
consist of
quotes from you folks, or more specifically those of you who came
to Rev not
from a HyperCard or other xTalk background, but those of you who
never
worked with anything like Rev before but have shipped projects in
other
languages like VB, Perl, JavaScript, ActionScript, etc.
So here's an open invitation to the readers of this list:
Feel free to send me an email describing your story of learning
Rev. Make
it as long or as short as you like, and consider including things
like:
- What language(s) you used before trying Rev, and a bit about
your background and experience as a developer
- How you first learned about Rev
- What you liked most about learning Rev
- What you found most annoying about Rev
- Any of the good or bad that's changed over time as you became
more familiar with Rev
And be sure to include this info so I can link back to your site and
hopefully bring a few clicks your way:
- Name
- Title
- Company/organization
- URL
Please send these to: revjour...@fourthworld.com
I'm very interested in learning more about how others see Rev, and
think
this will be a good read for the visitors at revJournal.com.
Thanks in advance. Feel free to write if you have any questions -
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World
Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
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