Randall,

I have never asked for a game server. I dont build games... Have never even played one.

On December 26th you started a thread asking how to build "real time multi-player interaction" using a "central server". That's generally called a game server. I was one of the people who spend a fair amount of time trying to show you how to do it with sockets. You weren't interested because the sockets API was too messy for you.

If you are going to ask how to do something, don't come back with a discussion on the inadequacies of the solution if you expect people to keep helping you out.

All of you should be agreeing with me, not fighting me. These things i ask for are obvious ways for xtalk to do for today's computing world what smalltalk and hypertalk did for the mid 1980's.

Perhaps that's the problem. We don't all agree with you, and I'm not so sure we should. Apparently we are missing how you have the obvious solutions to revolutionize programming. I disagree. Mostly I just hear a lot of buzz words and a desire to have Rev do everything you dream up, automatically.

I am writing deep pattern engine and symantic engine in xtalk, so dont dare say i am unwilling to go the coding distance. I have written self optimized multithreading into xtalk. I wrote a symantic indexing system into xtalk. I have written a full resolution independent 3D engine in xtalk.

I don't know anything about your projects, but I do know your behavior on the list. You raise threads about game servers, file system monitors and vector graphic engines, and then a week later you are on to something else, disgruntled that there wasn't a Rev command for what you wanted to do. And please, be credible about what you claim to have done. A "full resolution independent 3D engine"? "Self optimized multitreading"? Or experiments with idle handlers and drawing tools? Your own tone is the difference between me taking interest in what you've done and being completely put off. You don't have to prove yourself with big words - if you've done something interesting in xTalk this list is full of people who will fully appreciate it. Myself included... I discovered Hypercard in 4th grade and it still seems like I learn something new on this list every couple days from all corners of the community.

How is the rev product threatened by deep thinking people wondering aloud what features would make xtalk that much more powerful and contemporary?

It's not. Please stop anointing your "deep" thoughts as something everyone should agree with. You are entitled to your visions for computing but you'll have to get used to the fact that we don't all agree with you or bow to your visions.

Anyway, this isn't my list any more than yours, so I'll quit taking up so much bandwidth. Randall, I simply think that you *could* be a productive contributor with interesting ideas, and I think I (among others) could help you quite a bit in channeling them. But right now, it seems like a waste of time as you mostly appear interested in everyone agreeing what amazing ideas you have.
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