Stephen Barncard wrote:

"Open Office on the Mac is pretty ugly and it requires X11"

Not anymore, it doesn't:  http://www.openoffice.org/

anyway, on a Mac I always use NeoOffice:  http://www.neooffice.org/

which resembles more closely other Macintosh applications.

sincere;y, Richmond Mathewson.
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