On 5/27/05 12:34 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jeez.... > > you knwo what?....i am totally NEW to rev...and am getting 50 emails per > day....off this list...about PROBLEMS basically.... > > occasioanlly you get a success story.... > > is it normal to have such amounts of communiction over a programming > language?...it is not HARMFULL....but it strikes me that people are DEAP in > tryig to achieve things..... Yes, actually I belong to several programming lists, and this is typical. Each programmer is trying to accomplish some task, and when they run into questions or issues they don't immediately know how to work around, they post to the list. > it strikes me....that a lot of the emails...are looking for ANSWERS...you > know....but when you look at the TASKS that are bieng performed...they are not > TOO COMPLICATED.... Well, be careful... "complicated" is variable based on what you're trying to do, and there is an axiom that says that the simpler and easier something will be to the user of your product, the longer and more complicated the code is that made that happen! For example... suppose you want to make a simple guessing game, allowing the user to enter a value from 1 to 10, which you then compare against a fixed "answer" and when they click a button, they are told if they got it right or not. Simple, no? Just a field and a button with a few lines of code? Perhaps! But suppose they enter a letter in the field? Or a return? Or suppose they enter a number greater than 100? Or a number that is not an integer (like 5.2)? Suppose they don't enter *anything* and just click the button? Also, will you just have a fixed answer so they can only play the game once? Or do you need to store the "current" answer? If so, where do you store it and how do you retrieve it? All of these issues (and more!) will need to be taken into account to achieve the best user experience. When you are all done, what you may have still only have one field and one button, but several dozen lines of code... > it seams that NOBODY knows how to achieve very much with REV....or at > least...they are TRYING TO HARD ...TO ACHIEVE TO MUCH.... Au contraire, mon frere! :-) Many people are achieving *great deals* with Rev; many of us put out commercial applications, or work for others to get their applications out; what you are seeing is just a small fraction of what people are doing - only what they need help on at that moment. > REV is a massive language...with IMMENSE POWER....but to a NEW PERSON...with > ZERO porgramming skills...i find it quite TEDIUOS to say the least... Undertandable... keep in mind that this is akin to spending one's life renting a house, and now you're trying to learn the skills to *build* that house... it will be difficult at first, even for an easy-to-learn language like Revolution, but I can tell you that Revolution is probably one of the easiest to learn. > a simple CLOCK FACE with a SECOND HAND ticking by....takes 100 lines of CODE > to ACHIEVE....and DAYS of work.... Well, it may be "simple" on the outside, but not on the inside... as I mentioned above. Also, if it is 100 lines of code and days of work, then that may be more to the fact that you are a new to Revolution - I'm sure an experienced Rev developer could do it in far less code and certainly a lot less time. > sure you can look on these LISTS for answers....and that is VERY GOOD...but > how far do you want to go..with FIRING in THE DARK for answers? Well, one thing you can do is to find out if someone else has done something similar to what you are trying to do, and then download their stacks and look at their code - it can help a lot on the road to learning. Also, if you are in the United States, there are a couple of Rev user groups that have been formed that you might be able to take advantage of. Don't get discouraged! It will be worth it in the end... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution