Hi Evan,

It seems like the slow step is not the read that use_deprecated_read
targets for. Would you like to share your pipeline code if possible?

On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:35 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just tried with v2.29.0 and use_deprecated_read but unfortunately I
> observed slow behavior again. Is it possible that use_deprecated_read is
> broken in 2.29.0 as well?
>
> Thanks,
> Evan
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 3:21 PM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> oops sorry I was off by 10...I meant 2.29 not 2.19.
>>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 2:55 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the link/info. v2.19.0 and v2.21.0 did exhibit the "faster"
>>> behavior, as did v2.23.0. But that "fast" behavior stopped at v2.25.0 (for
>>> my use case at least) regardless of use_deprecated_read setting.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Evan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 2:47 PM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> use_deprecated_read was broken in 2.19 on the direct runner and didn't
>>>> do anything. [1]  I don't think the fix is in 2.20 either, but will be in
>>>> 2.21.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14469
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:41 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to also mention that in all tests I was setting
>>>>> --experiments=use_deprecated_read
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:39 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, I think I spoke too soon. I'm still seeing an issue of overall
>>>>>> DirectRunner slowness, not just pubsub. I have a pipeline like so:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read pubsub  |  extract GCS glob patterns  |  FileIO.matchAll()  |
>>>>>> FileIO.readMatches()  |  Read file contents  |  etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have temporarily set up a transform between each step to log what's
>>>>>> going on and illustrate timing issues.  I ran a series of tests changing
>>>>>> only the SDK version each time since I hadn't noticed this performance
>>>>>> issue with 2.19.0 (effectively git-bisect). Before each test, I seeded 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> pubsub subscription with the exact same contents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SDK version 2.25.0 (I had a build issue with 2.24.0 that I couldn't
>>>>>> seem to resolve) and onward show a significant slowdown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is a snippet of logging from v2.25.0:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:11:52 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$1
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got file pattern: gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:16:59 A.M.
>>>>>> org.apache.beam.sdk.io.FileIO$MatchAll$MatchFn process
>>>>>> INFO: Matched 2 files for pattern
>>>>>> gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:23:32 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file1.json
>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:23:32 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file2.json
>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:24:35 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file1.json
>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:24:35 A.M*. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file2.json
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that end-to-end, these steps took about *13 minutes*. With SDK
>>>>>> 2.23.0 and identical user code, the same section of the pipeline took *2
>>>>>> seconds*:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:03:39 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$1
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got file pattern: gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M.
>>>>>> org.apache.beam.sdk.io.FileIO$MatchAll$MatchFn process
>>>>>> INFO: Matched 2 files for pattern
>>>>>> gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file1.json
>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file2.json
>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:41 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file1.json
>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:03:41 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file2.json
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts on what could be causing this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 9:53 AM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 2:09 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Evan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you mean startup delay? Is it the time that from you start
>>>>>>>> the pipeline to the time that you notice the first output record from
>>>>>>>> PubSub?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes that's what I meant, the seemingly idle system waiting for
>>>>>>> pubsub output despite data being in the subscription at pipeline start
>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:50 AM Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you try running direct runner with the option
>>>>>>>>> `--experiments=use_deprecated_read`
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This seems to work for me, thanks for this! 👍
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems like an instance of
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10670?focusedCommentId=17316858&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-17316858
>>>>>>>>> also reported in
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/re6b0941a8b4951293a0327ce9b25e607cafd6e45b69783f65290edee%40%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We should rollback using the SDF wrapper by default because of the
>>>>>>>>> usability and performance issues reported.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:57 AM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’m experiencing very slow performance and startup delay when
>>>>>>>>>> testing a pipeline locally. I’m reading data from a Google PubSub
>>>>>>>>>> subscription as the data source, and before each pipeline execution I
>>>>>>>>>> ensure that data is present in the subscription (readable from GCP
>>>>>>>>>> console).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’m seeing startup delay on the order of minutes with
>>>>>>>>>> DirectRunner (5-10 min). Is that expected? I did find a Jira 
>>>>>>>>>> ticket[1] that
>>>>>>>>>> at first seemed related, but I think it has more to do with BQ than
>>>>>>>>>> DirectRunner.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’ve run the pipeline with a debugger connected and confirmed
>>>>>>>>>> that it’s minutes before the first DoFn in my pipeline receives any 
>>>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way I can profile the direct runner to see what it’s 
>>>>>>>>>> churning
>>>>>>>>>> on?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/BEAM-4548
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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