Yeah, sorry my email was confusing.  use_deprecated_reads is broken on the
DirectRunner in 2.29.

The behavior you describe is exactly the behavior I ran into as well when
reading from pubsub with the new read method.  I believe that soon the
default is being reverted back to the old read method, not using SDFs,
which will fix your performance issue.

On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 4:40 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi Evan,
>
> It seems like the slow step is not the read that use_deprecated_read
> targets for. Would you like to share your pipeline code if possible?
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:35 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just tried with v2.29.0 and use_deprecated_read but unfortunately I
>> observed slow behavior again. Is it possible that use_deprecated_read is
>> broken in 2.29.0 as well?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Evan
>>
>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 3:21 PM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> oops sorry I was off by 10...I meant 2.29 not 2.19.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 2:55 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the link/info. v2.19.0 and v2.21.0 did exhibit the "faster"
>>>> behavior, as did v2.23.0. But that "fast" behavior stopped at v2.25.0 (for
>>>> my use case at least) regardless of use_deprecated_read setting.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Evan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 2:47 PM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> use_deprecated_read was broken in 2.19 on the direct runner and didn't
>>>>> do anything. [1]  I don't think the fix is in 2.20 either, but will be in
>>>>> 2.21.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/14469
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:41 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I forgot to also mention that in all tests I was setting
>>>>>> --experiments=use_deprecated_read
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 1:39 PM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm, I think I spoke too soon. I'm still seeing an issue of overall
>>>>>>> DirectRunner slowness, not just pubsub. I have a pipeline like so:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Read pubsub  |  extract GCS glob patterns  |  FileIO.matchAll()  |
>>>>>>> FileIO.readMatches()  |  Read file contents  |  etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have temporarily set up a transform between each step to log
>>>>>>> what's going on and illustrate timing issues.  I ran a series of tests
>>>>>>> changing only the SDK version each time since I hadn't noticed this
>>>>>>> performance issue with 2.19.0 (effectively git-bisect). Before each 
>>>>>>> test, I
>>>>>>> seeded the pubsub subscription with the exact same contents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SDK version 2.25.0 (I had a build issue with 2.24.0 that I couldn't
>>>>>>> seem to resolve) and onward show a significant slowdown.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a snippet of logging from v2.25.0:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:11:52 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$1
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got file pattern: gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:16:59 A.M.
>>>>>>> org.apache.beam.sdk.io.FileIO$MatchAll$MatchFn process
>>>>>>> INFO: Matched 2 files for pattern
>>>>>>> gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:23:32 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file1.json
>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:23:32 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file2.json
>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:24:35 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file1.json
>>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:24:35 A.M*. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file2.json
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that end-to-end, these steps took about *13 minutes*. With SDK
>>>>>>> 2.23.0 and identical user code, the same section of the pipeline took *2
>>>>>>> seconds*:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:03:39 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$1
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got file pattern: gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M.
>>>>>>> org.apache.beam.sdk.io.FileIO$MatchAll$MatchFn process
>>>>>>> INFO: Matched 2 files for pattern
>>>>>>> gs://my-bucket/my-dir/5004728247517184/**
>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file1.json
>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:40 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$3
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got ReadableFile: my-file2.json
>>>>>>> May 12, 2021 11:03:41 A.M. com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file1.json
>>>>>>> *May 12, 2021 11:03:41 A.M.* com.myOrg.myPipeline.PipelineLeg$4
>>>>>>> processElement
>>>>>>> INFO: Got file contents for document_id my-file2.json
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts on what could be causing this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 9:53 AM Evan Galpin <evan.gal...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 2:09 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Evan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you mean startup delay? Is it the time that from you start
>>>>>>>>> the pipeline to the time that you notice the first output record from
>>>>>>>>> PubSub?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes that's what I meant, the seemingly idle system waiting for
>>>>>>>> pubsub output despite data being in the subscription at pipeline start
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:50 AM Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you try running direct runner with the option
>>>>>>>>>> `--experiments=use_deprecated_read`
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This seems to work for me, thanks for this! 👍
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seems like an instance of
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10670?focusedCommentId=17316858&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-17316858
>>>>>>>>>> also reported in
>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/re6b0941a8b4951293a0327ce9b25e607cafd6e45b69783f65290edee%40%3Cdev.beam.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We should rollback using the SDF wrapper by default because of
>>>>>>>>>> the usability and performance issues reported.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 12:57 AM Evan Galpin <
>>>>>>>>>> evan.gal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’m experiencing very slow performance and startup delay when
>>>>>>>>>>> testing a pipeline locally. I’m reading data from a Google PubSub
>>>>>>>>>>> subscription as the data source, and before each pipeline execution 
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> ensure that data is present in the subscription (readable from GCP
>>>>>>>>>>> console).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’m seeing startup delay on the order of minutes with
>>>>>>>>>>> DirectRunner (5-10 min). Is that expected? I did find a Jira 
>>>>>>>>>>> ticket[1] that
>>>>>>>>>>> at first seemed related, but I think it has more to do with BQ than
>>>>>>>>>>> DirectRunner.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve run the pipeline with a debugger connected and confirmed
>>>>>>>>>>> that it’s minutes before the first DoFn in my pipeline receives any 
>>>>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way I can profile the direct runner to see what it’s 
>>>>>>>>>>> churning
>>>>>>>>>>> on?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/BEAM-4548
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

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