@Thibaut wrong email? Or how's "Avoid dropping messages off the client
request path" (CASSANDRA-1676) related to the bootstrap questions I had?

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Thibaut Britz <thibaut.br...@trendiction.com
> wrote:

> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-1676
>
> you have to use at least 0.6.7
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In storage-conf I see this comment [1] from which I understand that the
>> > recommended way to bootstrap a new node is to set AutoBootstrap=true and
>> > remove itself from the seeds list.
>> > Moreover, I did try to set AutoBootstrap=true and have the node in its
>> own
>> > seeds list, but it would not bootstrap. I don't recall the exact message
>> but
>> > it was something like "I found myself in the seeds list therefore I'm
>> not
>> > going to bootstrap even though AutoBootstrap is true".
>> >
>> > [1]
>> >   <!--
>> >    ~ Turn on to make new [non-seed] nodes automatically migrate the
>> right
>> > data
>> >    ~ to themselves.  (If no InitialToken is specified, they will pick
>> one
>> >    ~ such that they will get half the range of the most-loaded node.)
>> >    ~ If a node starts up without bootstrapping, it will mark itself
>> > bootstrapped
>> >    ~ so that you can't subsequently accidently bootstrap a node with
>> >    ~ data on it.  (You can reset this by wiping your data and commitlog
>> >    ~ directories.)
>> >    ~
>> >    ~ Off by default so that new clusters and upgraders from 0.4 don't
>> >    ~ bootstrap immediately.  You should turn this on when you start
>> adding
>> >    ~ new nodes to a cluster that already has data on it.  (If you are
>> > upgrading
>> >    ~ from 0.4, start your cluster with it off once before changing it to
>> > true.
>> >    ~ Otherwise, no data will be lost but you will incur a lot of
>> unnecessary
>> >    ~ I/O before your cluster starts up.)
>> >   -->
>> >   <AutoBootstrap>false</AutoBootstrap>
>> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM, David Boxenhorn <da...@lookin2.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If "seed list should be the same across the cluster" that means that
>> nodes
>> >> *should* have themselves as a seed. If that doesn't work for Ran, then
>> that
>> >> is the first problem, no?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jake Luciani <jak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Well your ring issues don't make sense to me, seed list should be the
>> >>> same across the cluster.
>> >>> I'm just thinking of other things to try, non-boostrapped nodes should
>> >>> join the ring instantly but reads will fail if you aren't using
>> quorum.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I haven't tried repair.  Should I?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Jan 5, 2011 3:48 PM, "Jake Luciani" <jak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> > Have you tried not bootstrapping but setting the token and manually
>> >>>> > calling
>> >>>> > repair?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> My conclusion is lame: I tried this on several hosts and saw the
>> same
>> >>>> >> behavior, the only way I was able to join new nodes was to first
>> >>>> >> start them
>> >>>> >> when they are *not in* their own seeds list and after they
>> >>>> >> finish transferring the data, then restart them with themselves
>> *in*
>> >>>> >> their
>> >>>> >> own seeds list. After doing that the node would join the ring.
>> >>>> >> This is either my misunderstanding or a bug, but the only place I
>> >>>> >> found it
>> >>>> >> documented stated that the new node should not be in its own seeds
>> >>>> >> list.
>> >>>> >> Version 0.6.6.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:35 AM, David Boxenhorn
>> >>>> >> <da...@lookin2.com>wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> My nodes all have themselves in their list of seeds - always did
>> -
>> >>>> >>> and
>> >>>> >>> everything works. (You may ask why I did this. I don't know, I
>> must
>> >>>> >>> have
>> >>>> >>> copied it from an example somewhere.)
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>> I was able to make the node join the ring but I'm confused.
>> >>>> >>>> What I did is, first when adding the node, this node was not in
>> the
>> >>>> >>>> seeds
>> >>>> >>>> list of itself. AFAIK this is how it's supposed to be. So it was
>> >>>> >>>> able to
>> >>>> >>>> transfer all data to itself from other nodes but then it stayed
>> in
>> >>>> >>>> the
>> >>>> >>>> bootstrapping state.
>> >>>> >>>> So what I did (and I don't know why it works), is add this node
>> to
>> >>>> >>>> the
>> >>>> >>>> seeds list in its own storage-conf.xml file. Then restart the
>> >>>> >>>> server and
>> >>>> >>>> then I finally see it in the ring...
>> >>>> >>>> If I had added the node to the seeds list of itself when first
>> >>>> >>>> joining
>> >>>> >>>> it, it would not join the ring but if I do it in two phases it
>> did
>> >>>> >>>> work.
>> >>>> >>>> So it's either my misunderstanding or a bug...
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> The new node does not see itself as part of the ring, it sees
>> all
>> >>>> >>>>> others
>> >>>> >>>>> but itself, so from that perspective the view is consistent.
>> >>>> >>>>> The only problem is that the node never finishes to bootstrap.
>> It
>> >>>> >>>>> stays
>> >>>> >>>>> in this state for hours (It's been 20 hours now...)
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> $ bin/nodetool -p 9004 -h localhost streams
>> >>>> >>>>>> Mode: Bootstrapping
>> >>>> >>>>>> Not sending any streams.
>> >>>> >>>>>> Not receiving any streams.
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Nate McCall <n...@riptano.com>
>> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> Does the new node have itself in the list of seeds per chance?
>> >>>> >>>>>> This
>> >>>> >>>>>> could cause some issues if so.
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>> > I'm still at lost. I haven't been able to resolve this. I
>> tried
>> >>>> >>>>>> > adding another node at a different location on the ring but
>> >>>> >>>>>> > this node
>> >>>> >>>>>> > too remains stuck in the bootstrapping state for many hours
>> >>>> >>>>>> > without
>> >>>> >>>>>> > any of the other nodes being busy with anti compaction or
>> >>>> >>>>>> > anything
>> >>>> >>>>>> > else. I don't know what's keeping it from finishing the
>> >>>> >>>>>> > bootstrap,no
>> >>>> >>>>>> > CPU, no io, files were already streamed so what is it
>> waiting
>> >>>> >>>>>> > for?
>> >>>> >>>>>> > I read the release notes of 0.6.7 and 0.6.8 and there didn't
>> >>>> >>>>>> > seem to
>> >>>> >>>>>> > be anything addressing a similar issue so I figured there
>> was
>> >>>> >>>>>> > no
>> >>>> >>>>>> point
>> >>>> >>>>>> > in upgrading. But let me know if you think there is.
>> >>>> >>>>>> > Or any other advice...
>> >>>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>> >>>>>> > On Tuesday, January 4, 2011, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> Thanks Jake, but unfortunately the streams directory is
>> empty
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> so I
>> >>>> >>>>>> don't think that any of the nodes is anti-compacting data
>> right
>> >>>> >>>>>> now or had
>> >>>> >>>>>> been in the past 5 hours. It seems that all the data was
>> already
>> >>>> >>>>>> transferred
>> >>>> >>>>>> to the joining host but the joining node, after having
>> received
>> >>>> >>>>>> the data
>> >>>> >>>>>> would still remain in bootstrapping mode and not join the
>> >>>> >>>>>> cluster. I'm not
>> >>>> >>>>>> sure that *all* data was transferred (perhaps other nodes need
>> to
>> >>>> >>>>>> transfer
>> >>>> >>>>>> more data) but nothing is actually happening so I assume all
>> has
>> >>>> >>>>>> been moved.
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> Perhaps it's a configuration error from my part. Should I
>> use
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> I use
>> >>>> >>>>>> AutoBootstrap=true ? Anything else I should look out for in
>> the
>> >>>> >>>>>> configuration file or something else?
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Jake Luciani
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> <jak...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> In 0.6, locate the node doing anti-compaction and look in
>> the
>> >>>> >>>>>> "streams" subdirectory in the keyspace data dir to monitor the
>> >>>> >>>>>> anti-compaction progress (it puts new SSTables for
>> bootstrapping
>> >>>> >>>>>> node in
>> >>>> >>>>>> there)
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Ran Tavory <
>> ran...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> Running nodetool decommission didn't help. Actually the
>> node
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> refused
>> >>>> >>>>>> to decommission itself (b/c it wasn't part of the ring). So I
>> >>>> >>>>>> simply stopped
>> >>>> >>>>>> the process, deleted all the data directories and started it
>> >>>> >>>>>> again. It
>> >>>> >>>>>> worked in the sense of the node bootstrapped again but as
>> before,
>> >>>> >>>>>> after it
>> >>>> >>>>>> had finished moving the data nothing happened for a long time
>> >>>> >>>>>> (I'm still
>> >>>> >>>>>> waiting, but nothing seems to be happening).
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> Any hints how to analyze a "stuck" bootstrapping
>> node??thanks
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Ran Tavory <
>> ran...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> Thanks Shimi, so indeed anticompaction was run on one of
>> the
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> other
>> >>>> >>>>>> nodes from the same DC but to my understanding it has already
>> >>>> >>>>>> ended. A few
>> >>>> >>>>>> hour ago...
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> I plenty of log messages such as [1] which ended a couple
>> of
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> hours
>> >>>> >>>>>> ago, and I've seen the new node streaming and accepting the
>> data
>> >>>> >>>>>> from the
>> >>>> >>>>>> node which performed the anticompaction and so far it was
>> normal
>> >>>> >>>>>> so it
>> >>>> >>>>>> seemed that data is at its right place. But now the new node
>> >>>> >>>>>> seems sort of
>> >>>> >>>>>> stuck. None of the other nodes is anticompacting right now or
>> had
>> >>>> >>>>>> been
>> >>>> >>>>>> anticompacting since then.
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> The new node's CPU is close to zero, it's iostats are
>> almost
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> zero so
>> >>>> >>>>>> I can't find another bottleneck that would keep it hanging.
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> On the IRC someone suggested I'd maybe retry to join this
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> node,
>> >>>> >>>>>> e.g. decommission and rejoin it again. I'll try it now...
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> [1] INFO [COMPACTION-POOL:1] 2011-01-04 04:04:09,721
>> >>>> >>>>>> CompactionManager.java (line 338) AntiCompacting
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> [org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvAds-6449-Data.db')]
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> INFO [COMPACTION-POOL:1] 2011-01-04 04:34:18,683
>> >>>> >>>>>> CompactionManager.java (line 338) AntiCompacting
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> [org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvImpressions-3874-Data.db'),org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvImpressions-3873-Data.db'),org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvImpressions-3876-Data.db')]
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> INFO [COMPACTION-POOL:1] 2011-01-04 04:34:19,132
>> >>>> >>>>>> CompactionManager.java (line 338) AntiCompacting
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> [org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvRatings-951-Data.db'),org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvRatings-976-Data.db'),org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvRatings-978-Data.db')]
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> INFO [COMPACTION-POOL:1] 2011-01-04 04:34:26,486
>> >>>> >>>>>> CompactionManager.java (line 338) AntiCompacting
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> [org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvAds-6449-Data.db')]
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:45 PM, shimi <shim...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> In my experience most of the time it takes for a node to
>> join
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> the
>> >>>> >>>>>> cluster is the anticompaction on the other nodes. The
>> streaming
>> >>>> >>>>>> part is very
>> >>>> >>>>>> fast.
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> Check the other nodes logs to see if there is any node
>> doing
>> >>>> >>>>>> anticompaction.I don't remember how much data I had in the
>> >>>> >>>>>> cluster when I
>> >>>> >>>>>> needed to add/remove nodes. I do remember that it took a few
>> >>>> >>>>>> hours.
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> The node will join the ring only when it will finish the
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> bootstrap.
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> --
>> >>>> >>>>>> >> /Ran
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>> >>>>>> > --
>> >>>> >>>>>> > /Ran
>> >>>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> --
>> >>>> >>>>> /Ran
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>> --
>> >>>> >>>> /Ran
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> /Ran
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > /Ran
>> >
>>
>> If non-auto-bootstrap nodes to not join they check to make sure good
>> old iptables is not on.
>>
>> Edward
>>
>
>


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/Ran

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