Well your ring issues don't make sense to me, seed list should be the same
across the cluster.
I'm just thinking of other things to try, non-boostrapped nodes should join
the ring instantly but reads will fail if you aren't using quorum.


On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't tried repair.  Should I?
> On Jan 5, 2011 3:48 PM, "Jake Luciani" <jak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Have you tried not bootstrapping but setting the token and manually
> calling
> > repair?
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My conclusion is lame: I tried this on several hosts and saw the same
> >> behavior, the only way I was able to join new nodes was to first start
> them
> >> when they are *not in* their own seeds list and after they
> >> finish transferring the data, then restart them with themselves *in*
> their
> >> own seeds list. After doing that the node would join the ring.
> >> This is either my misunderstanding or a bug, but the only place I found
> it
> >> documented stated that the new node should not be in its own seeds list.
> >> Version 0.6.6.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:35 AM, David Boxenhorn <da...@lookin2.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> My nodes all have themselves in their list of seeds - always did - and
> >>> everything works. (You may ask why I did this. I don't know, I must
> have
> >>> copied it from an example somewhere.)
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I was able to make the node join the ring but I'm confused.
> >>>> What I did is, first when adding the node, this node was not in the
> seeds
> >>>> list of itself. AFAIK this is how it's supposed to be. So it was able
> to
> >>>> transfer all data to itself from other nodes but then it stayed in the
> >>>> bootstrapping state.
> >>>> So what I did (and I don't know why it works), is add this node to the
> >>>> seeds list in its own storage-conf.xml file. Then restart the server
> and
> >>>> then I finally see it in the ring...
> >>>> If I had added the node to the seeds list of itself when first joining
> >>>> it, it would not join the ring but if I do it in two phases it did
> work.
> >>>> So it's either my misunderstanding or a bug...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The new node does not see itself as part of the ring, it sees all
> others
> >>>>> but itself, so from that perspective the view is consistent.
> >>>>> The only problem is that the node never finishes to bootstrap. It
> stays
> >>>>> in this state for hours (It's been 20 hours now...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> $ bin/nodetool -p 9004 -h localhost streams
> >>>>>> Mode: Bootstrapping
> >>>>>> Not sending any streams.
> >>>>>> Not receiving any streams.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Nate McCall <n...@riptano.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Does the new node have itself in the list of seeds per chance? This
> >>>>>> could cause some issues if so.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> > I'm still at lost. I haven't been able to resolve this. I tried
> >>>>>> > adding another node at a different location on the ring but this
> node
> >>>>>> > too remains stuck in the bootstrapping state for many hours
> without
> >>>>>> > any of the other nodes being busy with anti compaction or anything
> >>>>>> > else. I don't know what's keeping it from finishing the
> bootstrap,no
> >>>>>> > CPU, no io, files were already streamed so what is it waiting for?
> >>>>>> > I read the release notes of 0.6.7 and 0.6.8 and there didn't seem
> to
> >>>>>> > be anything addressing a similar issue so I figured there was no
> >>>>>> point
> >>>>>> > in upgrading. But let me know if you think there is.
> >>>>>> > Or any other advice...
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > On Tuesday, January 4, 2011, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> >> Thanks Jake, but unfortunately the streams directory is empty so
> I
> >>>>>> don't think that any of the nodes is anti-compacting data right now
> or had
> >>>>>> been in the past 5 hours. It seems that all the data was already
> transferred
> >>>>>> to the joining host but the joining node, after having received the
> data
> >>>>>> would still remain in bootstrapping mode and not join the cluster.
> I'm not
> >>>>>> sure that *all* data was transferred (perhaps other nodes need to
> transfer
> >>>>>> more data) but nothing is actually happening so I assume all has
> been moved.
> >>>>>> >> Perhaps it's a configuration error from my part. Should I use I
> use
> >>>>>> AutoBootstrap=true ? Anything else I should look out for in the
> >>>>>> configuration file or something else?
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Jake Luciani <jak...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> In 0.6, locate the node doing anti-compaction and look in the
> >>>>>> "streams" subdirectory in the keyspace data dir to monitor the
> >>>>>> anti-compaction progress (it puts new SSTables for bootstrapping
> node in
> >>>>>> there)
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Running nodetool decommission didn't help. Actually the node
> refused
> >>>>>> to decommission itself (b/c it wasn't part of the ring). So I simply
> stopped
> >>>>>> the process, deleted all the data directories and started it again.
> It
> >>>>>> worked in the sense of the node bootstrapped again but as before,
> after it
> >>>>>> had finished moving the data nothing happened for a long time (I'm
> still
> >>>>>> waiting, but nothing seems to be happening).
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Any hints how to analyze a "stuck" bootstrapping node??thanks
> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Ran Tavory <ran...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> >> Thanks Shimi, so indeed anticompaction was run on one of the
> other
> >>>>>> nodes from the same DC but to my understanding it has already ended.
> A few
> >>>>>> hour ago...
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> I plenty of log messages such as [1] which ended a couple of
> hours
> >>>>>> ago, and I've seen the new node streaming and accepting the data
> from the
> >>>>>> node which performed the anticompaction and so far it was normal so
> it
> >>>>>> seemed that data is at its right place. But now the new node seems
> sort of
> >>>>>> stuck. None of the other nodes is anticompacting right now or had
> been
> >>>>>> anticompacting since then.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> The new node's CPU is close to zero, it's iostats are almost zero
> so
> >>>>>> I can't find another bottleneck that would keep it hanging.
> >>>>>> >> On the IRC someone suggested I'd maybe retry to join this node,
> >>>>>> e.g. decommission and rejoin it again. I'll try it now...
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> [1] INFO [COMPACTION-POOL:1] 2011-01-04 04:04:09,721
> >>>>>> CompactionManager.java (line 338) AntiCompacting
> >>>>>>
> [org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvAds-6449-Data.db')]
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> INFO [COMPACTION-POOL:1] 2011-01-04 04:34:18,683
> >>>>>> CompactionManager.java (line 338) AntiCompacting
> >>>>>>
> [org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvImpressions-3874-Data.db'),org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvImpressions-3873-Data.db'),org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvImpressions-3876-Data.db')]
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> INFO [COMPACTION-POOL:1] 2011-01-04 04:34:19,132
> >>>>>> CompactionManager.java (line 338) AntiCompacting
> >>>>>>
> [org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvRatings-951-Data.db'),org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvRatings-976-Data.db'),org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvRatings-978-Data.db')]
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> INFO [COMPACTION-POOL:1] 2011-01-04 04:34:26,486
> >>>>>> CompactionManager.java (line 338) AntiCompacting
> >>>>>>
> [org.apache.cassandra.io.SSTableReader(path='/outbrain/cassandra/data/outbrain_kvdb/KvAds-6449-Data.db')]
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:45 PM, shimi <shim...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> In my experience most of the time it takes for a node to join the
> >>>>>> cluster is the anticompaction on the other nodes. The streaming part
> is very
> >>>>>> fast.
> >>>>>> >> Check the other nodes logs to see if there is any node doing
> >>>>>> anticompaction.I don't remember how much data I had in the cluster
> when I
> >>>>>> needed to add/remove nodes. I do remember that it took a few hours.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> The node will join the ring only when it will finish the
> bootstrap.
> >>>>>> >> --
> >>>>>> >> /Ran
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > --
> >>>>>> > /Ran
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> /Ran
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> /Ran
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> /Ran
> >>
> >>
>

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