I think altogether what is being proposed by Florent is very healthy for
the Lenya community.

If this can be done within the existing ASF infrastructure that would be
a huge benefit.

There are probably many of use who have modules that could be
contributed in such a way ;)

Regards



Vik



Florent André wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:40:50 +0100, [email protected]
> wrote:
>> I like the idea having a plattform where it is easy to share modules very
>> much.
>>
>> Thorsten Scherler <[email protected]> schrieb am
>> 16.01.2009 09:13:53:
>>
>>> El jue, 15-01-2009 a las 19:06 +0100, Florent André escribió:
>>>> Hi all
> ...
>>> Why do you think so? The ASF infrastructure is designed to allow exactly
>>> this.
>>>
>>> "Portion of code" should first go into the issue tracker and then
>>> committed to the svn. Snippet should go to the wiki. Actually one of my
>>> first contributions here on the ASF had been
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GETsnippets
>>>
>>>> Such a site could be good for the community development.
>>>> (I don't have enough english words to well express my idea, I hope you
>>>> understand :).
>>> The lenya community is not as big as we could afford to split this
>>> community apart. This may not be your intention but experience shows
>>> that exactly this will happen.
>> Here I'm not shure. Let me explain it form my point of view.
>> I have written some useful litte modules and would like to share them
> with
>> other people, but I'm not able to understand the whole lenya system in
>> deep. So if I would be lenya committer there is a risk for me to damage
>> core code.
>>
> 
> Yes, this is also my idea. In the ASF submission process, a person have to
> be "accept" to can write on the svn, he have to "proof" that he is a good
> and implicated people in the project. I don't want to mean that is a bad
> concept : it permit a very good quality to ASF project.
> 
> But, it don't allow some "occasional" devel to share their modules (like
> rudolf korhummel I think).
> 
>>> The lenya community should be developed here in the mailing list and the
>>> infrastructure that the ASF provides for this project. This is a
>>> reliable environment for the development process.
>> If it would be possible to get a "lenya module committer" with limited
>> write access to the repository, the enty barrier for lenya development
>> would be lower and there is no risk to damage core code by committers new
>> at their job.
>> Just have a look at the drupal Community. They have a little core
>> development team and a big community developing modules
>> http://www.ohloh.net/p?q=drupal They are very sucessful.
>> I think the new modules concept of lenya 2.0 ist excellent, and it's a
>> great chance to get a big community.
> 
> Yes, this is exactly my idea, thanks !
> 
> Be sure, I don't want to split the community, but I think that it was a
> great think to have a less entry barrier for submitting than ASF. I think
> that it can create more community participation and module creation.
> 
> To precise my site idea and to respond to Vik, I imagine a more
> "development cooperative" tools than wiki (in fact : svn).
> 
> I think to something like that : 
> - a user create an Account on the "lenya mod sharing" site. So user
> automatically have an svn account 
> - After login on the site, a form allow the user to create a new "project".
> Here he can decide the write access in his project (all, restrict to name 1
> / name 2 /, restrict to group1 / group2, ...).
> - After form submission, an svn folder is created, codev can begin. 
> 
> - For "visitors", the site presents all available modules or templates than
> can be downloable.
> 
> As says rudolf.korhummel, "If this is possible with the apache environment
> it would be fine", and great.
> 
> Have a good day
> 
> 
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