On 4-Apr-08, at 8:10 AM, Henri Gomez wrote:
We won't be supporting tomcat. I explained the reasoning on the Maven user list and I'll put it in the FAQ. We will be supporting the single runtime, for support, and testing reasons. In addition to the robust nature of the
Jetty community versus the continually degrading Tomcat community.

Well I regret this decision.

1) Many of us hide servlets container behind Apache 2.x servers for
various reasons, and so we need ajp support


You can still use Apache, nothing stops you from doing that.

2) Many of IT manager don't want to have many instance to monitor and
supervise and prefer having a single Servlet Container loaded with
many webapp/applications.


Not true. We have talked to a lot of IT people and we wouldn't be taking this course of action if it was going to sink us.

3) Sad to see an ASF member critics the Tomcat community. I'm not sad
because I'm still commiter on Tomcat project and ASF member, but
because if it would be better to see your complains about Tomcat on
the tomcat list instead of Maven list.


Who if anyone is in a better position them an ASF member to critique the internals at Apache? No one else is going to do it. And like many dealing with people on the Tomcat mailing list I feel is a waste of time at this point after years of seeing what happens to people that do. I have corporate clients from very large organizations that have in not so many words been told to piss up a flagpole when a critical issue has been detected. It's just not the kind of environment I want to work in and many other people I've seen make many of the same comments.

Everyone just thinks it's all well and good. My point is that I've made my decision and we decided Jetty is the choice for the future. Tomcat has benefited from Apache marketing, and natural selection has not been able to play out because of this. IMO Jetty should have been the standard. Using Tomcat for me is not a defensible position anymore.

I would recommand to reconsider the question about nexus as standalone
webapp since it will prevent it to be used on others servlets engines,
Tomcat of course, but also Jetty, Resin ...

For our commercial offering that's probably not going to happen, and is not going to hurt us as we know this from talking with clients already.

But that doesn't stop you from helping us implement that mode of operation. I want something sane to support in the long run.



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Thanks,

Jason

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