>  You can still use Apache, nothing stops you from doing that.

So thanks to activate ajp support in jetty.

> > 2) Many of IT manager don't want to have many instance to monitor and
> > supervise and prefer having a single Servlet Container loaded with
> > many webapp/applications.
> >
> >
>
>  Not true. We have talked to a lot of IT people and we wouldn't be taking
> this course of action if it was going to sink us.

You known some IT people who want packaged solution, I know IT people
who want to have the choice of deployment. More choice, more
solutions.

> > 3) Sad to see an ASF member critics the Tomcat community. I'm not sad
> > because I'm still commiter on Tomcat project and ASF member, but
> > because if it would be better to see your complains about Tomcat on
> > the tomcat list instead of Maven list.

>  Who if anyone is in a better position them an ASF member to critique the
> internals at Apache? No one else is going to do it. And like many dealing
> with people on the Tomcat mailing list I feel is a waste of time at this
> point after years of seeing what happens to people that do. I have corporate
> clients from very large organizations that have in not so many words been
> told to piss up a flagpole when a critical issue has been detected. It's
> just not the kind of environment I want to work in and many other people
> I've seen make many of the same comments.

An issue detected in Tomcat and not fixed ? Could you give me the
JIRAs ? May be I could take a look or ask some of the Tomcat experts
to help you, after all you're an ASF member.

>  Everyone just thinks it's all well and good. My point is that I've made my
> decision and we decided Jetty is the choice for the future. Tomcat has
> benefited from Apache marketing, and natural selection has not been able to
> play out because of this. IMO Jetty should have been the standard. Using
> Tomcat for me is not a defensible position anymore.

Jetty is used by maven mojos for a long time (ie war test plugin).

What's your exact complains about Tomcat ?
With which release of Tomcat do you have problems ?
Do you heard about Costin works on Tomcat Light ?

>  For our commercial offering that's probably not going to happen, and is not
> going to hurt us as we know this from talking with clients already.

So no need for now to provide nexus as a standalone war.

>  But that doesn't stop you from helping us implement that mode of operation.

Well I don't want to break anything in nexus. If it works for your
targeted clients with Plexus/Jetty, it's ok for me.

I don't have so many spare time for OSS and I think better to use it
to help 'the continually degrading Tomcat community'.

> I want something sane to support in the long run.

I hope so.

Just a recommandation, activate the Jetty AJP support by default.

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