I have created a page for this: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Framework-only+distribution
The JIRA issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1867 can still be used to group toghether all issues related to this task. Please fill free to add whatever I missed and link the JIRA issues you know are related to this. -Bruno 2009/12/7 Christopher Snow <sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk>: > I've also started putting a page together on the steps for manually > separating the core framework: > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Ofbiz+as+a+development+framework > > The pages are just my documentation of the steps needed. I still think its > a good idea to have a page for collecting the requirements. > > > Christopher Snow wrote: >> >> Sounds good to me! >> >> Bruno Busco wrote: >>> >>> Should we try to write a "framework-only" feature proposal page like >>> the one Scott has writted for "Saved Searches" >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Saved+Searches >>> collecting all requirements from the mails? >>> >>> Having the path written could help volunteers to contribute in the >>> right direction. >>> >>> -Bruno >>> >>> 2009/12/4 Christopher Snow <sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk>: >>> >>>> >>>> That makes a lot of sense - thanks again Scott! >>>> >>>> Scott Gray wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> That risk is run by anybody who gets the ball rolling on any new >>>>> proposal, be it a contributor, committer or PMC member. Nobody is >>>>> capable of pushing through substantial change without the approval of >>>>> the community at large. >>>>> >>>>> The key for any amount of work is to collaborate with the community as >>>>> much as possible, if something is large then just break it down and >>>>> discuss each change piece by piece. An approach such as this >>>>> substantially reduces the risk that any work done will be wasted and >>>>> generally improves the overall design. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> On 4/12/2009, at 7:27 PM, chris snow wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Adrian, >>>>>> >>>>>> For a change that may be substantial, could this approach be quite >>>>>> risky >>>>>> that a lot of time could be spent developing something that may not be >>>>>> accepted? >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrian Crum wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is not how the open source community works. If anyone wants to >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> this move along, they need to make the desired changes to their local >>>>>>> copy, create a patch, and submit it to Jira. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as coordination is concerned, there is an "umbrella" Jira >>>>>>> issue >>>>>>> for this already. Just make new Jira issues sub-tasks of it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adrian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like Bruno mentioned, this topic has been discussed over many >>>>>>>> times. And >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> is time to take some actions. I really think one or more leaders >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> lead >>>>>>>> the process. Otherwise, the discussion might be around for a long >>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, chris snow <chsnow...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Bruno, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to help. Are you coordinating efforts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bruno Busco wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>>>>> the framework isolation and a framework-only installation is >>>>>>>>>> definitely something the community as talken about many times. You >>>>>>>>>> will find several conversations searching the mailing list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We will have it sooner or later and any help you could provide on >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> topic will be much appreciated. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2009/11/24 Michael Xu (xudong) <dong...@wizitsoft.com>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hmm...I compared the article and the latest code from trunk. I >>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>> the diagram is consistent with codes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For example, from the diagram party doesn't depend on marketing; >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> however, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned in previous email, party entity definition does use >>>>>>>>>>> ContactListParty from marketing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: >>>>>>>>>>> (86) >>>>>>>>>>> 135 >>>>>>>>>>> 0135 >>>>>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>>>>> <dong...@wizitsoft.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just found an article about the dependency: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the component relationship diagram, it seems I have to include >>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>> components under framework and application in my new >>>>>>>>>>>> application. Is >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> correct? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: >>>>>>>>>>>> (86) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 135 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 0135 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) < >>>>>>>>>>>> dong...@wizitsoft.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I try to build a new application using ofbiz. Basically, I >>>>>>>>>>>>> want to >>>>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> nice overall architect of ofbiz, theme mechanism and >>>>>>>>>>>>> Party/Permission/SecurityGroup. However, I found it is very >>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> remove unnecessary components. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, entitymodel.xml from applications/party >>>>>>>>>>>>> uses ContactListParty, which is from marketing component. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>>>> dependency doesn't make much sense, as marketing is only an >>>>>>>>>>>>> optional >>>>>>>>>>>>> component but party is a must. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will >>>>>>>>>>>>> be very >>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated. Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Xu >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p948290.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chris Snow - CEng MBCS CITP MBA (Tech Mgmt) (Open) CISSP >>>> >>>> Tel: 01453 890660 >>>> Mob: 07944 880950 >>>> Www: www.snowconsulting.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > -- > Chris Snow - CEng MBCS CITP MBA (Tech Mgmt) (Open) CISSP > > Tel: 01453 890660 > Mob: 07944 880950 > Www: www.snowconsulting.co.uk > >
