Hello Safari owners, If you have Safari 13 and (since today) Safari 14 Can you please do the following test:
using your Safari 13/14 1) open https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-load.html 2) share results you can see on screen 3) close tab 4) open https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-click.html 5) Click the button with "Click me" label 6) share results you can see on screen Thanks in advance :) On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 22:43, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello All, > > Thanks to Jason I can debug on his Mac and now I can see what is happening: > > In the very beginning > Video track has readyState == "live" > Audio track has readyState == "ended" > > According to MDN > > - "ended" which indicates that the input is not giving any more data > and will never provide new data. > > So far I have no idea why this happens > I can guess this is sort of security restriction to not allow "evil > hackers" to record your beautiful voice > > Will try to investigate more > > > On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 19:35, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello Jason, >> >> I was busy with day-time job and other issues >> Now I can investigate this one >> Will send you personal email :) >> >> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 21:38, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >> >>> With iPad/iPhone it doesn’t work with any browsers. If it was just as >>> easy as use - a different browser than that would be ok. >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:43 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Sry I had no time to follow up with Apple/Webkit ticket to get their dev >>> team to investigate. >>> >>> Although I think this is broken for any Web-Conferencing that uses >>> Safari. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Seb >>> >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 06:27, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Any update on this? I have had to abandon using this until we users >>>> with iPad and iPhones can use. >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 7:31 PM, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>> Openmeetings 5.0 M4 I think. I can try the WebRTC. I did setup Maxim >>>> to have remote access to a current MacBook for testing that had music >>>> playing and camera. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Are you using the official webRTC samples or OpenMeetings ? >>>> Or both ? :) >>>> >>>> I think in order to submit a bug to Apple/webkit its best to point >>>> towards the official webRTC reference examples at: >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Seb >>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 09:22, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have the same issue on iOS 14 beta. I have tried on iPhone and iPad. >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 4:20 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I was supposed to create a bug in the Apple bug at bugs.webkit.org. >>>>> >>>>> And Apple were also asking me to: >>>>> - Try iOS 14 beta. >>>>> - Attach a sysdiagnose from the Mac to the bug report >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Seb >>>>> >>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 15:47, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sure I can put music on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hello Jason, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, that would be awesome :) >>>>>> Does remote control for Mac allows to hear the sound? (overwise I >>>>>> can't test it ...) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 22:18, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I can give you remote access to a Mac to test. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> J >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I'll try to ask if any of my friends owns Mac with latest Safari >>>>>>> maybe I can borrow Mac to debug ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 14:04, <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nothing todo. >>>>>>>> I was just updating on what I found out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If i can do something, please tell me clear what... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ................. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The webRTC issue is also manifesting in the official webRTC >>>>>>>> reference code examples at: >>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do think other products will have the same issue on Safari13. But >>>>>>>> I would be worth validating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Somebody from Apple got in touch with me, and suggested that I >>>>>>>> submit a ticket to bugs.webkit.org and attach sysdiagnose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I may try that and see if that gives some results. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do see a few other video conferring products that have an app as >>>>>>>> well as web based that are working on the iPad for the mic issue. >>>>>>>> They are >>>>>>>> open source so we could look and see what they did to resolve the >>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> J >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and >>>>>>>> some special Safari settings that need to be considered: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But there is very little in terms of finding out what >>>>>>>> capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not sure if I can help :( >>>>>>>> I only have access to iMac which works as expected (can't fix >>>>>>>> something I can't reproduce :(( ) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, these are the result >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In >>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping >>>>>>>> *YES* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping >>>>>>>> *NO* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *===========* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound super >>>>>>>> sensitive >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound no >>>>>>>> sensitive and dry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...something more? ...Avanti! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> .............. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh sure! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am just interested in - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green >>>>>>>> bar *NO* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you test with those additionally on >>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> from my tests actually >>>>>>>> my Safari works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very >>>>>>>> strange >>>>>>>> how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't! >>>>>>>> I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in >>>>>>>> Safari, or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the >>>>>>>> API >>>>>>>> (and Safari13 exposing that in some way). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Sebastian, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could you please be a little more explicite? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive >>>>>>>> partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to >>>>>>>> other OSX, and that is a little heavy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test, >>>>>>>> with what browser and what examples in concret? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes >>>>>>>> in the iMac, is also Yosemite). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ........................... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could you try also some of the official examples from: >>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For example: >>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop >>>>>>>> (which is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It >>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>> playback the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> will lead to a audio-feedback loop/noise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to >>>>>>>> work. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Sebastian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ..................... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, here is my test in: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When try recording appear a red message: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't record (play) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> =============== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me, >>>>>>>> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like >>>>>>>> me, can understand. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ................ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Alvaro, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please re-read my message >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ============= >>>>>>>> Hello Safari owners :) >>>>>>>> Could you please visit >>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell >>>>>>>> me is it works as expected in Safari browser (11+) >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance :)) >>>>>>>> ============= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting >>>>>>>> with 11? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private room ==> No green bar >>>>>>>> mic >>>>>>>> In one hour will test other safari versions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> .................... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: >>>>>>>> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit >>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft >>>>>>>> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as >>>>>>>> expected >>>>>>>> > in Safari browser (11+) >>>>>>>> > Thanks in advance :)) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > @Sebastian, >>>>>>>> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> > be added to OM UI .... >>>>>>>> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <seba.wagner@gmai >>>>>>>> > l.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine. >>>>>>>> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time >>>>>>>> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they >>>>>>>> > > won't try again. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta >>>>>>>> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> > > getting angry! >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> > > example? >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Thanks >>>>>>>> > > Seb >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > Yes, release as-is... >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > ................. >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at >>>>>>>> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be >>>>>>>> > > > > improved >>>>>>>> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > @All, >>>>>>>> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to >>>>>>>> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? >>>>>>>> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <seba.wagne >>>>>>>> > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > > > No but the generic test application at >>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github. >>>>>>>> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work >>>>>>>> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac. >>>>>>>> > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application >>>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>> > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream. >>>>>>>> > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. >>>>>>>> > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using >>>>>>>> > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome >>>>>>>> > > > > > however works fine. >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > Thanks >>>>>>>> > > > > > Seb >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>> <solomax666@gm >>>>>>>> > > > > > ail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" >>>>>>>> > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13? >>>>>>>> > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? >>>>>>>> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <seba.w >>>>>>>> > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > audio/video: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > ri_11 >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > audio >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as >>>>>>>> WebRTC >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media >>>>>>>> Capture >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > API, Resource >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly < >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > cite_note-63> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release- >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be >>>>>>>> good to >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > get a few more >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > not. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Cheers >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Seb >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > < >>>>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>> <solomax66 >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Well, >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where >>>>>>>> ATM >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > :((( >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any >>>>>>>> access to >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > internet (maybe >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <se >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Seb >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> < >>>>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> < >>>>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik >>>>>>>> <soloma >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update >>>>>>>> it) >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> My steps were >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more >>>>>>>> hours, >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > please let me know >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, >>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > iOS does not capture >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > capturing audio does not >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> work. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of >>>>>>>> audio >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > established that that's the >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> root >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> cause) >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of >>>>>>>> audio >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> setup >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some think >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > code change on our >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> end >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC >>>>>>>> samples >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > broken for >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section: >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > media/audio/ >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC : >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside >>>>>>>> OpenMeetings >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > is rather complex. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> As >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > a simple minimal >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> code >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> in >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to >>>>>>>> approach >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > this ? >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss- >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > webRTC I would also >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> like >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> < >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> -- >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> Maxim >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > -- >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Best regards, >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Maxim >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > -- >>>>>>>> > > > > > > Best regards, >>>>>>>> > > > > > > Maxim >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > -- >>>>>>>> > > > > Best regards, >>>>>>>> > > > > Maxim >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > Best regards, >>>>>>>> > Maxim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Maxim >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > -- Best regards, Maxim
