Hello All, Here is the status update: not very good news: there seems to be no issues with OM code, the problem is in Safari 13-14 good news: everything seems to work as expected in "Sefari Developer Preview" for iMac (not sure for mobiles yet)
I would appreciate if you can double-check this :)) Many thanks to Jason who helped a lot with debugging! :))) On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 at 23:52, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > That is progress. The Mac is still on if you need to test that idea. > > J > > > > On Sunday, Nov 08, 2020 at 6:35 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Hello Jason, > > no progress, but I have an idea :))) > > On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 at 09:15, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: > >> Maxim, >> Did you make an progress on this? >> >> J >> >> >> >> On Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:01 AM, Robert Savickas < >> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Maxim, last night, i tried on a latest iPhone and iPad, by giving Safari >> explicit permission to operate the microphone without having to request >> user permission. Still no spoken sound perceived. >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 01:36 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Little update: I think this issue might be caused by the fact Apple >>> don't let audio to play without explicit user permission/action >>> I'm trying to create simple test for this (to find workaround) >>> >>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 23:27, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> There is no sound from latest Mac + latest Safari (like microphone is >>>> muted) >>>> >>>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 23:22, Ali Alhaidary < >>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OM works fine on OSX (Macs), but doesn't on iOS (mobile and tabs) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10/13/20 6:36 PM, Jason wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Do you need access to mine again? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:15 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hello Jason, >>>>> >>>>> I still have no access to any Mac, so no updates >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 21:49, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Any update on the iOS audio issue? >>>>>> >>>>>> J >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> The JIRA I have mentioned is about Network testing tool >>>>>> Not audio .... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 16:23, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I can recheck but I was testing just 3 days ago and there was still >>>>>>> no audio that you can record in Safari. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But I can check that other parts are working better now or not >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me verify. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 20:19, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can someone check this JIRA >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2371 >>>>>>>> using Safari? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 13:39, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ...same result as Sebastian on both Safari versions: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OSX 10.15.6 >>>>>>>>> Safari Version 13.1.2 (before update) >>>>>>>>> Safari Version 14.0 (15610.1.28.1.9, 15610) (after update) >>>>>>>>> iMac >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ...if need any other test plaese say it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> .................... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> El dom, 20-09-2020 a las 17:17 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> not sure why should I visit webrtc.github.io .... >>>>>>>>> => If the reference examples on the official >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/webrtc are not working I see little chance >>>>>>>>> that the issue is within the OpenMeetings code. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In saying that - there might be still settings within the OM code >>>>>>>>> relating to webRTC/Safari that may be worth looking into! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 16:11, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> not sure why should I visit webrtc.github.io .... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, you got valid stream on Safari >>>>>>>>> But there is still no audio in the room >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> interesting >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll prepare another test >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 10:53, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> webRTC give some feedback but I think its still broken. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can try yourself at: >>>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/peerconnection/audio/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you hit "call" and watch below, there is no KB/data being send. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also had a quick look in a OM conference room and the OM device >>>>>>>>> settings testing app: The green dot doesn't do anything. There is no >>>>>>>>> audio >>>>>>>>> sound being sent to the server. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Sebastian >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 15:43, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Sebastian :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you have audio in the room working? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 10:41, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-load.html >>>>>>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-click.html >>>>>>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>>>>>> Safari Version 14.0 (15610.1.28.1.9, 15610) >>>>>>>>> MacBookPro OSX 10.15.6 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 15:24, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Safari owners, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have Safari 13 and (since today) Safari 14 >>>>>>>>> Can you please do the following test: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> using your Safari 13/14 >>>>>>>>> 1) open >>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-load.html >>>>>>>>> 2) share results you can see on screen >>>>>>>>> 3) close tab >>>>>>>>> 4) open >>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-click.html >>>>>>>>> 5) Click the button with "Click me" label >>>>>>>>> 6) share results you can see on screen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 22:43, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks to Jason I can debug on his Mac and now I can see what is >>>>>>>>> happening: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the very beginning >>>>>>>>> Video track has readyState == "live" >>>>>>>>> Audio track has readyState == "ended" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> According to MDN >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - "ended" which indicates that the input is not giving any >>>>>>>>> more data and will never provide new data. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So far I have no idea why this happens >>>>>>>>> I can guess this is sort of security restriction to not allow >>>>>>>>> "evil hackers" to record your beautiful voice >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will try to investigate more >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 19:35, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Jason, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was busy with day-time job and other issues >>>>>>>>> Now I can investigate this one >>>>>>>>> Will send you personal email :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 21:38, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With iPad/iPhone it doesn’t work with any browsers. If it was just >>>>>>>>> as easy as use - a different browser than that would be ok. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> J >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:43 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Sry I had no time to follow up with Apple/Webkit ticket to get >>>>>>>>> their dev team to investigate. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Although I think this is broken for any Web-Conferencing that uses >>>>>>>>> Safari. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 06:27, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any update on this? I have had to abandon using this until we >>>>>>>>> users with iPad and iPhones can use. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> J >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 7:31 PM, Jason <ja...@romos.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Openmeetings 5.0 M4 I think. I can try the WebRTC. I did setup >>>>>>>>> Maxim to have remote access to a current MacBook for testing that had >>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>> playing and camera. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Are you using the official webRTC samples or OpenMeetings ? >>>>>>>>> Or both ? :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think in order to submit a bug to Apple/webkit its best to point >>>>>>>>> towards the official webRTC reference examples at: >>>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 09:22, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have the same issue on iOS 14 beta. I have tried on iPhone and >>>>>>>>> iPad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> J >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 4:20 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I was supposed to create a bug in the Apple bug at >>>>>>>>> bugs.webkit.org. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And Apple were also asking me to: >>>>>>>>> - Try iOS 14 beta. >>>>>>>>> - Attach a sysdiagnose from the Mac to the bug report >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner >>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 15:47, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sure I can put music on >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hello Jason, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, that would be awesome :) >>>>>>>>> Does remote control for Mac allows to hear the sound? (overwise I >>>>>>>>> can't test it ...) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 22:18, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can give you remote access to a Mac to test. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> J >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'll try to ask if any of my friends owns Mac with latest Safari >>>>>>>>> maybe I can borrow Mac to debug ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 14:04, <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nothing todo. >>>>>>>>> I was just updating on what I found out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Seb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If i can do something, please tell me clear what... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ................. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > -- Best regards, Maxim
