Hello Jason,

no progress, but I have an idea :)))

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 at 09:15, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:

> Maxim,
> Did you make an progress on this?
>
> J
>
>
>
> On Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:01 AM, Robert Savickas <
> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maxim, last night, i tried on a latest iPhone and iPad, by giving Safari
> explicit permission to operate the microphone without having to request
> user permission. Still no spoken sound perceived.
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 01:36 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Little update: I think this issue might be caused by the fact Apple don't
>> let audio to play without explicit user permission/action
>> I'm trying to create simple test for this (to find workaround)
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 23:27, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is no sound from latest Mac + latest Safari (like microphone is
>>> muted)
>>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 23:22, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OM works fine on OSX (Macs), but doesn't on iOS (mobile and tabs)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/13/20 6:36 PM, Jason wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you need access to mine again?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:15 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Jason,
>>>>
>>>> I still have no access to any Mac, so no updates
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 21:49, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any update on the iOS audio issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The JIRA I have mentioned is about Network testing tool
>>>>> Not audio ....
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 16:23, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can recheck but I was testing just 3 days ago and there was still
>>>>>> no audio that you can record in Safari.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I can check that other parts are working better now or not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me verify.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Seb
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 20:19, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone check this JIRA
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2371
>>>>>>> using Safari?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 13:39, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...same result as Sebastian on both Safari versions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OSX 10.15.6
>>>>>>>> Safari Version 13.1.2  (before update)
>>>>>>>> Safari Version 14.0 (15610.1.28.1.9, 15610) (after update)
>>>>>>>> iMac
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...if need any other test plaese say it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ....................
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> El dom, 20-09-2020 a las 17:17 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> not sure why should I visit webrtc.github.io ....
>>>>>>>> => If the reference examples on the official
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/webrtc are not working I see little chance that
>>>>>>>> the issue is within the OpenMeetings code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In saying that - there might be still settings within the OM code
>>>>>>>> relating to webRTC/Safari that may be worth looking into!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Seb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 16:11, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> not sure why should I visit webrtc.github.io ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, you got valid stream on Safari
>>>>>>>> But there is still no audio in the room
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll prepare another test
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 10:53, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> webRTC give some feedback but I think its still broken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can try yourself at:
>>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/peerconnection/audio/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you hit "call" and watch below, there is no KB/data being send.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also had a quick look in a OM conference room and the OM device
>>>>>>>> settings testing app: The green dot doesn't do anything. There is no 
>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>> sound being sent to the server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 15:43, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Sebastian :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have audio in the room working?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 10:41, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-load.html
>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-click.html
>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>> Safari Version 14.0 (15610.1.28.1.9, 15610)
>>>>>>>> MacBookPro OSX 10.15.6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 15:24, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Safari owners,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have Safari 13 and (since today) Safari 14
>>>>>>>> Can you please do the following test:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> using your Safari 13/14
>>>>>>>> 1) open
>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-load.html
>>>>>>>> 2) share results you can see on screen
>>>>>>>> 3) close tab
>>>>>>>> 4) open
>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/public/test-click.html
>>>>>>>> 5) Click the button with "Click me" label
>>>>>>>> 6) share results you can see on screen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 22:43, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to Jason I can debug on his Mac and now I can see what is
>>>>>>>> happening:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the very beginning
>>>>>>>> Video track has readyState == "live"
>>>>>>>> Audio track has readyState == "ended"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to MDN
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - "ended" which indicates that the input is not giving any more
>>>>>>>>    data and will never provide new data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far I have no idea why this happens
>>>>>>>> I can guess this is sort of security restriction to not allow "evil
>>>>>>>> hackers" to record your beautiful voice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will try to investigate more
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 19:35, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Jason,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was busy with day-time job and other issues
>>>>>>>> Now I can investigate this one
>>>>>>>> Will send you personal email :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 21:38, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With iPad/iPhone it doesn’t work with any browsers. If it was just
>>>>>>>> as easy as use - a different browser than that would be ok.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:43 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sry I had no time to follow up with Apple/Webkit ticket to get
>>>>>>>> their dev team to investigate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although I think this is broken for any Web-Conferencing that uses
>>>>>>>> Safari.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Seb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 06:27, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any update on this?  I have had to abandon using this until we
>>>>>>>> users with iPad and iPhones can use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 7:31 PM, Jason <ja...@romos.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Openmeetings 5.0 M4 I think.  I can try the WebRTC.  I did setup
>>>>>>>> Maxim to have remote access to a current MacBook for testing that had 
>>>>>>>> music
>>>>>>>> playing and camera.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Are you using the official webRTC samples or OpenMeetings ?
>>>>>>>> Or both ? :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think in order to submit a bug to Apple/webkit its best to point
>>>>>>>> towards the official webRTC reference examples at:
>>>>>>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Seb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 09:22, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the same issue on iOS 14 beta.  I have tried on iPhone and
>>>>>>>> iPad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, Aug 15, 2020 at 4:20 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>>>>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I was supposed to create a bug in the Apple bug at  bugs.webkit.org.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And Apple were also asking me to:
>>>>>>>>  - Try iOS 14 beta.
>>>>>>>>  - Attach a sysdiagnose from the Mac to the bug report
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Seb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>>>>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 15:47, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure I can put music on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:11 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello Jason,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, that would be awesome :)
>>>>>>>> Does remote control for Mac allows to hear the sound? (overwise I
>>>>>>>> can't test it ...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 22:18, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can give you remote access to a Mac to test.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'll try to ask if any of my friends owns Mac with latest Safari
>>>>>>>> maybe I can borrow Mac to debug ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 14:04, <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing todo.
>>>>>>>> I was just updating on what I found out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Seb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If i can do something, please tell me clear what...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .................
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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Best regards,
Maxim

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