Fair enough. Thanks so much for checking that out for me... backup and upgrade 
it is! Thanks again Maxim!

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> On Sep 23, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Denis,
> 
> 5.0.0(and 5.0.1) have lots of DB changes comparing to 5.0.0-M4 (If I do 
> remember correctly)
> so you need to perform import/export
> (you always can backup DB, try to re-use 5.0.0-M4 DB with 5.0.1 and restore 
> DB if it will not work :)))
> 
> To properly "apply" the change in these 2 JS files you need to rebuild OM
> 
>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 00:41, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks a lot Maxim. (Tried to keep email shorter than others šŸ˜‚). I assume 
>> that this fix is not included in the 5.0.1 release but can be downloaded via 
>> the snapshot #60 
>> (https://builds.apache.org/job/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/lastBuild/) 
>> (5.1.0). As I have gigs of docs currently uploaded  - doing a backup and 
>> reinstall might be disruptive but will plan to do so over the next week or 
>> so... do you think simply implementing the changes that were made to the 
>> raw-video-manager.js and the raw-video.js would be a sufficient "quick fix" 
>> - bearing in mind, I am still using 5.0.0-M4, (Revision: 9753e61) - and 
>> would this require a restart?
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Denis.
>> 
>>      Virus-free. www.avg.com
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:41 AM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2451
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the detailed description!
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 03:07, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sure, if you think it helps. It can be easily tested out...
>>>> 
>>>> (I retested using a public room via: 
>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/#room/116)
>>>> 
>>>> Clicking on a users video pod ... irrespective of what pod is clicked.
>>>> 
>>>> <1.JPG>
>>>> <2.JPG>
>>>> <3.JPG>
>>>> <4.JPG>
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> MODERATOR USING SHIFT + 12
>>>> 
>>>> <6.JPG>
>>>> <7.JPG>
>>>> <8.JPG>
>>>> 
>>>> <IMG_9.JPG>
>>>> 
>>>>    Virus-free. www.avg.com
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 1:21 PM Mukul Shukla <mukulma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> pics
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:45 PM Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi there Maxim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apologies for the previous long email. I had previously tried your 
>>>>>> suggestions - the results being the same on the OM demo site below:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tested the following mute functionality on the 
>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings demo site also and noticed the 
>>>>>> following (with 3 users):
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> SHIFT + F7 (works as expected as a quick on / off toggle for individual 
>>>>>> users)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> SHIFT + F12 mutes all users (including moderator)... however, moderator 
>>>>>> and all participants will have to click individually on the "speaker 
>>>>>> /audio" of all participants if they want to hear each other again.
>>>>>> Perhaps it would be more useful to mute everybody... except the 
>>>>>> moderator... whereby everyone can at least hear the moderator.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Finally (the function I am really eager to use), clicking on a users 
>>>>>> video pod (or avatar when they have their camera deactivated) in order 
>>>>>> "mute microphones of others"... will result in the popup message "Do you 
>>>>>> really want to mute all users except this one?" ... but does not do 
>>>>>> anything. As I can't test this any further, I can only assume that would 
>>>>>> this mute the moderator also and if so would it best to "mute all others 
>>>>>> except this one and the moderator".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tested this using the latest versions of Chrome and Firefox. When 
>>>>>> using Firefox the current hotkeys open the Firefox web debugging tools 
>>>>>> also.The room type I was using was "conference" 
>>>>>> (https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/#room/98659).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Virus-free. www.avg.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 7:13 AM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Denis,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have to say this email is big :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 13:36, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi there guys, I am using the previous version of OM prior to the 
>>>>>>>> current upgrade... which will probably solve my issue... but just in 
>>>>>>>> case...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am in a rare situation where some of my users are in the same office 
>>>>>>>> environment... and as a result there is the obvious sound / audio 
>>>>>>>> feedback. They are using multiple devices so my natural recommendation 
>>>>>>>> would be to ā€œmute all usersā€... except me... when I want to speak... 
>>>>>>>> especially for longer periods of time... and then when I want user ā€œxā€ 
>>>>>>>> to participate I would ask user ā€œxā€  to ā€œunmuteā€ and talk... and when 
>>>>>>>> he/she is finished  to ā€œmuteā€ unfortunately when I ā€œmute all usersā€ it 
>>>>>>>> also mutes me (the moderator). My work-around is to inform the 
>>>>>>>> participants in advance that I will ā€œmute everybodyā€ to eliminate echo 
>>>>>>>> and feedback and then ask them to individually ā€œunmuteā€ me... and then 
>>>>>>>> them etc.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Again this is a rare scenario that might have slipped the net... the 
>>>>>>>> alternative would be to have external speakers for the audio (muting 
>>>>>>>> everyone... except the moderator) and using a.... for example... a 
>>>>>>>> conference microphone... to pick up on what each individual is 
>>>>>>>> saying... whereby on designated user in the group activates audio / 
>>>>>>>> mic etc but then in this situation it is quite difficult to know who 
>>>>>>>> is speaking... as that microphone is connected to one userā€™s computer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any suggestions, work-arounds on this?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If I understand the situation correctly
>>>>>>> There is solution since version 2.0.0 (if I'm not mistaken)
>>>>>>> As moderator you can click at video-pod of any user and let this user 
>>>>>>> to be the only speaker (this feature has name Exclusive audio)
>>>>>>> Additionally there is Hot key for this listed here 
>>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html 
>>>>>>> (mute.others.keycode)
>>>>>>> And there should be special icon in case there is no video-pod, just 
>>>>>>> audio :)
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I know the ideal situation would be for the participants to find 
>>>>>>>> different isolated positions in the building to work from... but I 
>>>>>>>> assure you... in this situation it is not physically possible... even 
>>>>>>>> though I am told they are taking Covid seriously. And honestly, Iā€™ve 
>>>>>>>> exhausted all of these measures with the company. However, some of the 
>>>>>>>> workers do not have access to computers at home and as a result will 
>>>>>>>> share an office environment with a projector and so on. Please do not 
>>>>>>>> let this posting turn into something other than a tech and application 
>>>>>>>> usage recommendation / suggestion... because Iā€™m honestly, I am tired, 
>>>>>>>> emotionally and mentally drained.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Finally @Maxim and @Sebastian... on a totally different note... I had 
>>>>>>>> a game of Chess on OM with my son recently (without screen sharing) 
>>>>>>>> ... which was fun... a little bit Mickey Mouse... but it worked... 
>>>>>>>> which makes me think we should open an ā€œapplicationsā€ usage group for 
>>>>>>>> OM... showing its practicality rather than anything else... whereby 
>>>>>>>> users can upload/download workable ideas, classes, ideas  ... etc from 
>>>>>>>> the platform.... As an English teacher and exhausted business owner... 
>>>>>>>> hopefully this message will inspire...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There was proposal like this already: 
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1904
>>>>>>> But, I'm afraid, the only realistic way to achieve some interactivity 
>>>>>>> on WB would be to create some sort of "plugable WB" and provide 
>>>>>>> detailed instruction how WB plugin can be created
>>>>>>> Not sure if I have time and will to work on this :( (this looks to me 
>>>>>>> as some monster task :(( )
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Again, and sorry for the repetition, this platform can be used, with 
>>>>>>>> the proper guidance to deliver a professional class.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Denis.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim

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