Fair enough. Thanks so much for checking that out for me... backup and upgrade it is! Thanks again Maxim!
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Denis, > > 5.0.0(and 5.0.1) have lots of DB changes comparing to 5.0.0-M4 (If I do > remember correctly) > so you need to perform import/export > (you always can backup DB, try to re-use 5.0.0-M4 DB with 5.0.1 and restore > DB if it will not work :))) > > To properly "apply" the change in these 2 JS files you need to rebuild OM > >> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 00:41, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thanks a lot Maxim. (Tried to keep email shorter than others š). I assume >> that this fix is not included in the 5.0.1 release but can be downloaded via >> the snapshot #60 >> (https://builds.apache.org/job/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/lastBuild/) >> (5.1.0). As I have gigs of docs currently uploaded - doing a backup and >> reinstall might be disruptive but will plan to do so over the next week or >> so... do you think simply implementing the changes that were made to the >> raw-video-manager.js and the raw-video.js would be a sufficient "quick fix" >> - bearing in mind, I am still using 5.0.0-M4, (Revision: 9753e61) - and >> would this require a restart? >> >> All the best, >> >> Denis. >> >> Virus-free. www.avg.com >> >>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:41 AM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2451 >>> >>> Thanks for the detailed description! >>> >>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 03:07, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Sure, if you think it helps. It can be easily tested out... >>>> >>>> (I retested using a public room via: >>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/#room/116) >>>> >>>> Clicking on a users video pod ... irrespective of what pod is clicked. >>>> >>>> <1.JPG> >>>> <2.JPG> >>>> <3.JPG> >>>> <4.JPG> >>>> >>>> >>>> MODERATOR USING SHIFT + 12 >>>> >>>> <6.JPG> >>>> <7.JPG> >>>> <8.JPG> >>>> >>>> <IMG_9.JPG> >>>> >>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 1:21 PM Mukul Shukla <mukulma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> pics >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:45 PM Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi there Maxim, >>>>>> >>>>>> Apologies for the previous long email. I had previously tried your >>>>>> suggestions - the results being the same on the OM demo site below: >>>>>> >>>>>> I tested the following mute functionality on the >>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings demo site also and noticed the >>>>>> following (with 3 users): >>>>>> >>>>>> SHIFT + F7 (works as expected as a quick on / off toggle for individual >>>>>> users) >>>>>> >>>>>> SHIFT + F12 mutes all users (including moderator)... however, moderator >>>>>> and all participants will have to click individually on the "speaker >>>>>> /audio" of all participants if they want to hear each other again. >>>>>> Perhaps it would be more useful to mute everybody... except the >>>>>> moderator... whereby everyone can at least hear the moderator. >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally (the function I am really eager to use), clicking on a users >>>>>> video pod (or avatar when they have their camera deactivated) in order >>>>>> "mute microphones of others"... will result in the popup message "Do you >>>>>> really want to mute all users except this one?" ... but does not do >>>>>> anything. As I can't test this any further, I can only assume that would >>>>>> this mute the moderator also and if so would it best to "mute all others >>>>>> except this one and the moderator". >>>>>> >>>>>> I tested this using the latest versions of Chrome and Firefox. When >>>>>> using Firefox the current hotkeys open the Firefox web debugging tools >>>>>> also.The room type I was using was "conference" >>>>>> (https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/#room/98659). >>>>>> >>>>>> All the best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Denis >>>>>> >>>>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 7:13 AM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Denis, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have to say this email is big :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 13:36, Denis Noctor <denisnoc...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi there guys, I am using the previous version of OM prior to the >>>>>>>> current upgrade... which will probably solve my issue... but just in >>>>>>>> case... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am in a rare situation where some of my users are in the same office >>>>>>>> environment... and as a result there is the obvious sound / audio >>>>>>>> feedback. They are using multiple devices so my natural recommendation >>>>>>>> would be to āmute all usersā... except me... when I want to speak... >>>>>>>> especially for longer periods of time... and then when I want user āxā >>>>>>>> to participate I would ask user āxā to āunmuteā and talk... and when >>>>>>>> he/she is finished to āmuteā unfortunately when I āmute all usersā it >>>>>>>> also mutes me (the moderator). My work-around is to inform the >>>>>>>> participants in advance that I will āmute everybodyā to eliminate echo >>>>>>>> and feedback and then ask them to individually āunmuteā me... and then >>>>>>>> them etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Again this is a rare scenario that might have slipped the net... the >>>>>>>> alternative would be to have external speakers for the audio (muting >>>>>>>> everyone... except the moderator) and using a.... for example... a >>>>>>>> conference microphone... to pick up on what each individual is >>>>>>>> saying... whereby on designated user in the group activates audio / >>>>>>>> mic etc but then in this situation it is quite difficult to know who >>>>>>>> is speaking... as that microphone is connected to one userās computer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any suggestions, work-arounds on this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I understand the situation correctly >>>>>>> There is solution since version 2.0.0 (if I'm not mistaken) >>>>>>> As moderator you can click at video-pod of any user and let this user >>>>>>> to be the only speaker (this feature has name Exclusive audio) >>>>>>> Additionally there is Hot key for this listed here >>>>>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html >>>>>>> (mute.others.keycode) >>>>>>> And there should be special icon in case there is no video-pod, just >>>>>>> audio :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know the ideal situation would be for the participants to find >>>>>>>> different isolated positions in the building to work from... but I >>>>>>>> assure you... in this situation it is not physically possible... even >>>>>>>> though I am told they are taking Covid seriously. And honestly, Iāve >>>>>>>> exhausted all of these measures with the company. However, some of the >>>>>>>> workers do not have access to computers at home and as a result will >>>>>>>> share an office environment with a projector and so on. Please do not >>>>>>>> let this posting turn into something other than a tech and application >>>>>>>> usage recommendation / suggestion... because Iām honestly, I am tired, >>>>>>>> emotionally and mentally drained. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Finally @Maxim and @Sebastian... on a totally different note... I had >>>>>>>> a game of Chess on OM with my son recently (without screen sharing) >>>>>>>> ... which was fun... a little bit Mickey Mouse... but it worked... >>>>>>>> which makes me think we should open an āapplicationsā usage group for >>>>>>>> OM... showing its practicality rather than anything else... whereby >>>>>>>> users can upload/download workable ideas, classes, ideas ... etc from >>>>>>>> the platform.... As an English teacher and exhausted business owner... >>>>>>>> hopefully this message will inspire... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was proposal like this already: >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1904 >>>>>>> But, I'm afraid, the only realistic way to achieve some interactivity >>>>>>> on WB would be to create some sort of "plugable WB" and provide >>>>>>> detailed instruction how WB plugin can be created >>>>>>> Not sure if I have time and will to work on this :( (this looks to me >>>>>>> as some monster task :(( ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Again, and sorry for the repetition, this platform can be used, with >>>>>>>> the proper guidance to deliver a professional class. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Denis. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Maxim >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim