The problem is:

All recordings are in one place editable by all moderators.

Ali

On 2/20/21 11:29 AM, Daniel Baker wrote:

So  to  go  back to original   problem:


Teachers  are  finding it  difficult to pick a  recording because several recordings  are  named the same or similar ?


Is that  the problem ?

On 17-Feb-21 8:45 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:

AFAIK, you can install the plugin on http 5080

Ali

On 2/17/21 11:16 PM, Denis Noctor wrote:
Hi there Max,

Apologies for the silence on my side. I use moodle and have been doing so (on a different AWS server to that of the OM instance (5.1.0)). I haven’t integrated both of them to work with each other (yet), as my Moodle instance is still using PHP 5.6 and no SSL. More recent versions of Moodle require PHP 7 + and SSL cert to work. The reason I have been slow to upgrade my version of Moodle is because some of my MySQL code needs to be changed to MySQLi as many functions are deprecated and I also have my school database (on the same Moodle server) using old PHP pages which will require a rewrite. This is something I will work on over the weekend. Once I have both servers talking to each other, I will install the OM Moodle plugin as it is the last piece of the puzzle I need to work on. All the best.

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On Feb 17, 2021, at 7:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It seems I understand less and less with each email in this thread :(
Are there any other Moodle plugin users who follow this thread?

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 21:08, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:

    In moodle, to use an application (called plugin) there are
    three steps:

    1. install the plugin.

    2. create an activity of that plugin in the class page.

    3. use this created activity.

    In OM case,

    1. we install the plugin, and currently, a new group called
    module is created, what I am suggesting is not to create this
    group at this stage.

    2. create an activity of any type other than 'Show Recording'
    with 'suffix' added, only then a new group is created in OM
    database called module+suffix.

    3. when the teacher uses this activity he will see an empty
    module+suffix group in his tree list (that used to see module
    group only)

    4. He records the lesson, which will be saved in 'my
    recordings', and after the recording is ready, he will rename
    it and move it to 'module+suffix' group.

    We usually do not want students to enter the room just to
    attend the recorded lesson, so the teacher will create an
    activity of any type 'Show Recording' with 'suffix' selected
    (not added, because if he did not create the activity as per
    step 2, this list will be empty and the activity can not be
    created), and the list of recordings will be displayed to be
    selected.


    On 2/11/21 4:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:


    On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 20:44, Ali Alhaidary
    <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
    <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:


        On 2/11/21 4:19 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:


        On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 21:29, Ali Alhaidary
        <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
        <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:

            1. Teacher fills the form of new OM activity with
            suffix field, and save it (see attached in red), at
            this time, new group is created in OM database with
            the name 'module+suffix'

        true

            2. A new OM activity is created on his course page.

        true

            3. Teacher clicks on this activity, enters OM room,
            do the recording and exit.

        true

            4. Teacher creates new OM activity with 'Show
            recording' with the same suffix field, and only then
            he can select recordings

        NOT true

        As I wrote 2 times before
        this activity need to be saved "with  suffix"
        then opened
        and only the second time recording list will contain
        correct recording ....
        this is the problem
        The activity is saved with 'suffix' as per step 1, and
        executed (opened) as per step 3, where is the problem ?


    I always thought activity of type room is created
    then NEW activity of type recording is created
    I wonder which of two use-case is more common? ...


            I do know when recording list is generated, however,
            I do know that recording will be visible after
            recording :-)

            On 2/10/21 4:56 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:


            On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 20:30, Ali Alhaidary
            <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
            <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:


                On 2/10/21 4:19 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
                I'll clean-up some context

                On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 20:01, Ali Alhaidary
                <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org
                <mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:


                    In fact - no :(

                    recordings created at "moodle-ENG101" will
                    not be visible while key is "moodle" and
                    the `suffix` is empty
                    to see them
                    teacher will need to create activity (with
                    suffix)
                    save it
                    then edit

                    this looks to me as bad UX :(

                    Maybe you can suggest how it can be improved?
                    Yes, you are absolutely right, the teacher
                    needs to create an activity with 'suffix'
                    mandatory field, and then he use this
                    activity, enter the room and do recording,
                    only after that, the recording is visible.


                here is the problem
                what exactly do you mean by "after that, the
                recording is visible." ?
                After the teacher does the recording, it should
                (would) be visible in a new activity created
                with the same suffix for recordings only.


            OK, let's start from the beginning :)

            The recordings list is created on server at the very
            beginning
            this means
            1) teacher clicks "Add activity"
              - recording list is created based on "Module key"
            only (there is no suffix for new activity)
              - at this point teacher can't select "suffixed"
            recordings from the list
            3) he/she adds suffix, and saves the activity
            4) click edit
              - recording list is created based on "Module key"
            and "suffix"

            this is what I call bad UX :(



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