Craig McClanahan wrote: > What you describe is pretty much what the Wiki is for > (http://wiki.apache.org/struts).
I'm not sure I agree with that... I would certainly agree that the Wiki COULD be used for this purpose, but I know for me at least, when I think of the Wiki I think of a place I can go to find an answer to a question. I view it as something of a FAQ that anyone can contribute to (which I suppose is almost the actual definition of Wiki!). But if I found myself wondering whether an item on my own wish list was an idea shared by others and might be actually in development by someone, I wouldn't think of the Wiki as the place to go for an answer.
Maybe its just a matter of me not looking at it properly though :)
One could argue that the mailing list(s) serve this purpose, but I think its too easy to miss things on the list.
Also, part of what I was proposing, potentially a very valuable part, is the somewhat proactive nature of it (i.e., "tickling" for status). There's more that could be done in this vein as well, but that's a start. I think this goes to your very valid point about people doing more and saying less (my paraphrasing). I'm guilty of this myself to a degree, but I do have contributions to various projects out there, so not as much as some others at least :)
But, my reason for posting the idea was to see what people thought, and if everyone agrees that the Wiki does the job, then that's good enough for me :) This isn't the type of thing I can just go off and do and use it myself even if no one else buys into it... Since buy in by others is integral to what it would be, I don't want to spend time working on it if I don't have that buy in first, so by all means if everyone agrees with you Craig, thats just as valuable a conclusion to me as the other... perhaps not as fun, but I can live with that :)
-- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:59:56 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You know what might actually make a wish list more interesting (at least to me)? What if we had a site we could go to and see a list of all the pie-in-the-sky kinds of things people wanted, and I as someone who might want to contribute could say "gee, X over here sounds very interesting to me, I'd like to do that" and I could kind of "assign" it to myself?
This might sound a little bit like Bugzilla or SourceForge, but I think it would serve a different purpose and have some different features...
For instance, what it one of the things it did was every week or two sent out an eMail to the person who said they were working on something and requested an update? If no response was recieved in 48 hours lets say, then the person loses their "assignment". That doesn't mean they can't still work on it, just that as far as the community knows, no one is actively working on that project.
Such a site would serve as something of a central clearing house for the various wish list items people have. A person could go there and see what people want, what is being worked on, what the current status is, etc. This would minimize duplication of effort, and would also help two people interested in the same thing get together and help each other.
I don't propose that this would be anything officially sanctioned, certainly not initially, nor would it be anything other than kind of a meeting place and status database (i.e., I'm not talking about storing code or posting releases like SF or anything).
It just seems to me that we all have our own wish lists, and some of us are willing to put in some effort to implement some of the ideas. Wouldn't we all help ourselves and each other by introducing some minor level of organization to such efforts? We certainly can't all know what each other is doing all the time, so isn't anything that facilitates communication a Good Thing(tm)?
I would be more than willing to put such a site together, and I'd even be willing to host it (assuming it didn't prove to be a financial burden). But I'd like to know if I'm the only one that thinks it might be a good idea or not first. :)
-- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com
Ted Husted wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:56:02 -0800, Dakota Jack wrote:
Hope this is helpful. If not, please understand it was meant to be helpful.
Wish lists like this are mildly interesting, but what's helpful is when people give back to the community by creating new extensions.
A Struts Upload extension would probably be interesting to a lot of people. But someone who uses one must be the one to create it. Just like when Steve created ssl-ext, and Hubert created FormDef, and Frank created WS, and Don created Scripting, and once upon a time, when David created Validator and Cedric created Tiles.
All of us are writing applications. The difference is that a few kind souls package their stuff to share with others.
-Ted.
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