You only have this "experience" because you clearly do not even see what te framework does for you. If you don't see that, you see nothing.
On 7/2/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The lines with Struts are in fact less, because you don't have to code > > the framework. > > That was an interesting statement. My experience was Struts have more > codes and configuration files than straight forward JSP+Javabean+taglibs > approach that was done before. > > And also I would insist J2EE vs .Net is a more appropriate > comparison than JSF vs .NET (as you suggested in another email). > > Jack H. Xu > Technology columnist and editor > > http://www.usanalyst.com > > http://www.getusjobs.com (The largest free job portal in North America) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dakota Jack" > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" > Subject: Re: Struts vs .NET??? > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:45:41 -0700 > > > > > The lines with Struts are in fact less, because you don't have to > code > > the framework. > > > > On 7/1/05, John Henry Xu wrote: > > > Rick, you are right that you can write struts using very basic > text editor. > > > > > > My consideation is based on the cost of software development. > > > > > > Let's say for the same problem that you tried to solve: before > > > your code was 1000 lines. Now in struts, your code are 1500 lines > > > (remember those setters and getters and configuration files.) > > > > > > Assume you use basic text editor, the time you finish your > > > project is 1.5 times than before. > > > > > > Now if this transfer to many projects, the budget you finish > > > those projects will be 1.5 times as before. > > > > > > Suppose your department used to spend 10 million dollars a year, > > > now you need 15 million dollars to do the same work. > > > > > > So good GUIs to automate repeatable codes are neccessary to cut > > > those 5 million dollars. > > > > > > Jack H. Xu > > > Technology columnist and editor > > > > > > http://www.usanalyst.com > > > > > > http://www.getusjobs.com (The largest free job portal in North > America) > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rick Reumann" > > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" > > > Subject: Re: Struts vs .NET??? > > > Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:35:31 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > John Henry Xu wrote the following on 6/30/2005 11:49 PM: > > > > > > > > > struts can fit into J2EE structure and it is only part of it. > And > > > in > > > > > my opinion, you better use some GUI tools to develop struts > > > > > application, otherwise you spend lots of time on getters and > > > setters. > > > > > > > > Well even many of the most basic editors will make get/set > methods, > > > > so I wouldn't say you need a GUI Tool at all for coding Struts > > > > apps. I happen to use IDEA and jEdit, mostly because I'm used > to > > > > using them. (Yea I know Eclipse is good also..bla bla.. > everyone > > > > just use what you like.. emacs, vim, pico, chalkboard, > whatever:) > > > > It's just very misleading to state that you need GUI tools to > > > > create Struts apps. > > > > > > > > -- Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jack H. Xu > > > Technology columnist and editor > > > > > > http://www.usanalyst.com > > > > > > http://www.getusjobs.com (The largest free job portal in North > America) > > > > > > -- > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > > > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > back." > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Jack H. Xu > Technology columnist and editor > > http://www.usanalyst.com > > http://www.getusjobs.com (The largest free job portal in North America) > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
