On 7/3/05, netsql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you yealy think people on level of Craig, Husted, Clinton, Linus, > Marti C, etc. use painters? Or that you are not productive? > Guns don't kill. People kill. Tools don't matter. A good developer is > key, and you are not going to get one at $10. >
FWIW, the pain and agony of writing AWT and Swing apps by hand was a primary personal motivation for me to focus on web development in the late 1990s :-). On my day job (architect for Creator) I luckily don't have to do this kind of development myself, and have stayed away from it in my open source work as well -- the only thing that looks likely to lure me back is something like the Matisse GUI builder that is under active development in NetBeans 4.2. http://www.netbeans.org/kb/articles/matisse.html >From a Creator perspective, even though the target audience is corporate developers, we've been very pleasantly surprised by the reception from enterprise Java developers, who are basically saying "hey, we'd like the same sort of productivity improvements for our work too!". Of course, no attitude about development practices is universal ... but we've been quite pleased by the number of people with this reaction (and added some features in the Sun Java Studio Creator 2 EA release just for them). >From a personal perspective, I was a die hard Emacs user until about a year ago, when IDEs finally started getting to the point where they could make *me* more productive. As a result, nearly all my work on Shale has been, and continues to be, done in NetBeans (4.0 at first, 4.1 currently). If the Struts project ever gets to the point of accepting IDE-specific project files in the source repository, I'd be happy to check mine in to save other people the problem of setting them up themselves. I don't care what Vic, or anyone else, wants to use personally. However, I would hope people hire developers based on their productivity rather than strictly on their technological approach. And, for anyone who tries to make generalizations about how the *entire* world should work, just remember the following maxim: "All generalizations are false ... including this one" :-) Craig --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
