On 3/31/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am sorry you took this personally, Dion. I meant nothing about you > personally. I am just saying that what you are advocating is well-known > in > the literature and in fact to be a problem. This is a main reason why > Struts 1.x is being abandoned. I am not going to take the time to show > you > something that you should be learning as a matter of course. I don't owe > you that. So far as I know you may be the most wonderful person in the > world. Nothing personal is meant. Just read more. That is all I am > saying. Just because you don't see something does not mean I have the > obligation to teach you. I have told you the truth. Check it out.
Your original statement I replied to was: "For one, try writing decent tests." Believe it or not, I have done a lot of reading on Struts, been developing with Struts for many years (I think it was 1999, in the 0.5 days) and understand what it takes to test Struts code very well. I've written Struts and WebWork apps, and tests for both, many times. I'm not asking you to teach me anything. IMHO, you can write decent tests for Struts applications. And I'm happy to agree to disagree with you. On 3/29/06, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ah, personal attack, thanks. > > > > I wouldn't want people to think that it's not possible to write decent > > tests > > with Struts 1.x. > > > > It is. > > > > > > On 3/30/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Sigh ...... Dion, I am sorry, but I am not going to stoop this > > > low. Come > > > back later when you are grown up in this business. I hate to do this > > but > > > I > > > am not going to start at 101 with you. Someone else can. I am not > > going > > > to. You DON'T have a clue about these issues and don't even realize > > that > > > you are revealing that in spades. Please do yourself a favor and bow > > out > > > gracefully. > > > > > > On 3/29/06, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 3/30/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dion, you are obviously really green. Please read a bit and then > > come > > > > > back. Do you have any idea about architecture and design and > > testing > > > > > issues? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I do. Do you? > > > > > > > > So, the use of StrutsTestCase has an effect on architecture and > > design? > > > > Are you saying you can't test your code using it? I seem to do it > > > > reasonably > > > > easily. > > > > > > > > On 3/29/06, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/30/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > God, Joe! If you don't know what is wrong with Struts 1.xthen > > > > stand > > > > > > > aside. For one, try writing decent tests. Do you test your > > code? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So StrutsTestCase doesn't help you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/29/06, Joe Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jonathon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You didn't answer Dion's question. You merely summarized > that > > > > Struts > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > WebWork merged. > > > > > > > > You did not state any technical reasons that Struts 1.x is > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > The question was "Do you have a list of > > > > > > > > things that are technically wrong with Struts 1.x?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You complain that people don't answer questions on this list > > and > > > > > look > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > you've just done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So do you have an answer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >You should not use me as some kind of scapegoat to take out > > > your > > > > > > > > >frustrations on. Take this stuff up with the Struts PMC, > not > > > > > > > > >with me. >Jonathan Revusky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very unbecoming of you Jon. Stop trying to change the > subject > > > and > > > > > > answer > > > > > > > > the question.The question is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Do you have a list of things that are technically wrong > with > > > > Struts > > > > > > 1.x > > > > > > > ?" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on > > its > > > > > > back." > > > > > > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ > > > > > > Chuck Norris sleeps with a night light. Not because Chuck Norris > > is > > > > > afraid > > > > > > of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > > > > back." > > > > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ > > > > Chuck Norris sleeps with a night light. Not because Chuck Norris is > > > afraid > > > > of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > > back." > > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ > > Chuck Norris sleeps with a night light. Not because Chuck Norris is > afraid > > of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris > > > > > > > -- > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." > ~Dakota Jack~ > > -- http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ Chuck Norris sleeps with a night light. Not because Chuck Norris is afraid of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris
