I suspect its due to the attribute

deleteAllMessagesOnStartup="true"

since that directive only makes sense (IMHO) if you are doing 
Persistence/Journaling

Regarding the activemq-data directory ... are you sure its creating journal 
files and not just the activemq.log file?
That is the default location of the activemq.log file ... which you can change in 
<ACTIVEMQ_HOME>/conf/log4j.properties


Gaurav



ConstantChange wrote:
(Please read the other post, it actually works now, BUT: ->

ActiveMQ still creats an activemq-data directory with journal dirs and files
in it, somewhere where I never told it to put it...

Can I turn that off too??


Thanks again!
Werner


Gaurav Hariani wrote:
My needs are similar to yours and I don't see any derby/journal activity.

I'm using ActiveMQ 4.1.1 with the following basic activemq.xml config.

Gaurav

---
<beans>
<bean class="org.springframework.beans.factory.config.PropertyPlaceholderConfigurer"/> <broker brokerName="localhost" useJmx="true" persistent="false" xmlns="http://activemq.org/config/1.0";>

<!-- Increase to 64 MB Use the following to set the broker memory limit --> <memoryManager> <usageManager id="memory-manager" limit="64 MB"/>
    </memoryManager>
<!-- Use the following to configure how ActiveMQ is exposed in JMX -->
    <managementContext>
<managementContext connectorPort="1099" jmxDomainName="org.apache.activemq"/>
    </managementContext>

    <transportConnectors>
       <transportConnector name="openwire" uri="tcp://localhost:61616"/>
    </transportConnectors>
  </broker>
</beans>



ConstantChange wrote:
Hi!

(I really tried to figure this out by finding other threads and reading
documentation, but unfortunately I did not get further hat way.)

We use ActiveMQ to create concurrent tasks doing some stuff in a parallel
manner for performance reasons. Now, in our case we dont need ANY
persistence whatsoever. Messages by avg. will live for around 3-10
seconds,
and if they take longer they are not needed anymore.

Now, the obvious thing to do is turning persistence off with the
"persistence=false" attribute in the broker. But this does not prevent
ActiveMQ from starting up the Derby Journal thing. Why is that? In all
the
other threads seemingly related to this the people either wanted only
journaling or only jdbc persistence, but I dont want any of those!! How
can
I archieve that?

(Or is the journal not an optional thing because its used as kind of
cache
so the memory does not overflow?)

Thanks very very much!
Cheers,
CC

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