Hi,

Currently, if you send a persistent message while JDBC store is not available 
(for any reason), the producer will get a JMSException/IOException.

It’s up to the client to deal with redelivery or fail its process.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to wait for database, as it’s not really 
predictable (it can take hours ;)).

Regards
JB

> Le 8 mai 2021 à 12:21, J P <jpswe...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Hi Tim.
> 
> We are using the "Classic" ActiveMQ.
> Would this behaviour be any different if switching to Artemis?
> 
> In my view, the preferred behaviour if a client sends a msg to the queue
> during DB-outage, the send request should "hang" or "block" until the DB
> becomes available again (possibly throwing a "time-out error" after X
> seconds, if still no DB-connection).
> 
> The second choice would be that all send-operations immediately throws an
> error back, until the DB becomes available again.
> 
> Either of these behaviours seems far better than just promptly shutting
> down the whole broker.
> Esp. since getting all listeners to automatically reconnect after a broker
> shutdown and restart is tricky and in practice rarely supported(?), I think.
> 
> So if the broker shuts down, then all listener-processes also need a
> shutdown and restart, which would not be necessary if the broker stays up
> during a temporary DB-outage.
> 
>> would you be OK with having ActiveMQ restart repeatedly until the
>> database is available again
> 
> I have considered implementing this through a "crontab-script" or similar.
> But the problem still is that all listeners also need to be restarted.
> 
> So what the script would do then is,
> when detecting that the broker has stopped, basically shutdown all
> dependent processes,
> then have the script loop and check for DB-availability,
> when it comes back first restart the broker, then all the listeners.
> This is outside the scope of ActiveMQ, though, since it requires monitor
> and control over the whole environment.
> 
> 
> ============================================
>> Tim Bain <tb...@alumni.duke.edu>
>> Subject Re: ActiveMQ to auto-reconnect on jdbc db-failures?
>> Date Fri, 07 May 2021 23:41:11 GMT
>> If instead of staying up and attempting to reconnect to the database
> (while
>> still servicing requests without a database connection, whatever that
> would
>> mean), would you be OK with having ActiveMQ restart repeatedly until the
>> database is available again?
>> 
>> Also, is this 5.x or Artemis?
> 
>> Tim

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