> What I am looking for is a start-to-finish audio or video tutorial.

Thanks for the clarification. I don't know of anybody who has comprehensive
video or audio resources on ActiveMQ. I've considered investing some time
in video resources, but there's a handful of things working against video
vs. traditional text documentation.

 - Videos take longer to produce. Writing good scripts is hard. Making
mistakes has a much higher time penalty.
 - Videos are more expensive to produce. At the very least you need a good
mic, good screen capture software, and a quiet room.
 - Videos are not searchable like text documentation. This is a really big
deal with technical material. Folks don't want to waste time with stuff
they don't care about. They want to get the info they need and move on.
 - Videos tend to visibly age more rapidly than text. In most cases, videos
on Youtube even from just a few years look markedly worse than new ones.
 - Videos are harder to edit over time. When important changes happen in
later releases you must update the video somehow or recreate it from
scratch. We're not presenting the fundamentals of algebra that haven't
changed in centuries.
 - It's tough to know the level of detail your audience wants. Too much
detail wastes people's time. Not enough detail means they'll have to read
the documentation anyway.

In my opinion the return isn't sufficient to justify the investment. I
write code for a living. I'm sure there's folks out there who do this kind
of stuff for a living or as a hobby where the investment would be much
lower.

Hope that helps!


Justin

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:08 PM Doug Whitfield <dwhitfi...@perforce.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Justin!
>
> What I am looking for is a start-to-finish audio or video tutorial. There
> are one-off’s such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FVXUvrtBr4 but the
> aforementioned Config Java Tech is the only full course I have found so
> far. There is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF1Op1ZNBAk (Linux
> Foundation), which is a bit longer, but it’s 5 years old and isn’t really
> what I’m looking for anyway.
>
> Pluralsight has nothing, but perhaps udemy or somewhere else has
> something. There are a lot of such sites (edx, Kahn Academy, etc), so
> before checking out all of them I figured I would see if anyone had a
> *specific* suggestion.
>
> Good one-offs might be useful too considering the lack of full courses.
>
>
> From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> Date: Monday, March 7, 2022 at 16:58
> To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Artemis tutorial?
> I can't speak to what other folks are writing, and I'm not quite sure what
> you're looking for so I'll share the resources I have direct knowledge of:
>  - the main documentation [1] (which you mentioned)
>  - over 150 examples that ship with the broker demonstrating a specific bit
> of functionality
>  - mailing lists [2]
>  - Stack Overflow [3]
>
> Searching for "activemq artemis tutorial" turns up a number of results from
> various non-Apache websites.
>
> If there's something that's not covered in those places feel free to
> follow-up with a new thread here.
>
>
> Justin
>
> [1]
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Factivemq.apache.org%2Fcomponents%2Fartemis%2Fdocumentation%2Flatest%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cdwhitfield%40perforce.com%7C1b0cd8071ca84c5d12d708da008dd95a%7C95b666d19a7549ab95a38969fbcdc08c%7C0%7C0%7C637822907259156704%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=Do0eiqGmhXMAGgI4oKRUMn54zY16x184G%2BE5EPpgfac%3D&amp;reserved=0
> [2]
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Factivemq.apache.org%2Fcontact&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cdwhitfield%40perforce.com%7C1b0cd8071ca84c5d12d708da008dd95a%7C95b666d19a7549ab95a38969fbcdc08c%7C0%7C0%7C637822907259156704%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=V2LY8gyGjgbDlPWEWVcY%2Bn2eKMinJBTqg8Aq5212jmE%3D&amp;reserved=0
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>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 4:06 PM Doug Whitfield <dwhitfi...@perforce.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > It’s been about 6.5 years since the HornetQ donation, so not sure HornetQ
> > tutorials are relevant (should they exist). I haven’t been able to find
> > much in the way of Artemis tutorials. I did find one from Config Java
> Tech
> > (don’t want to be spammy, but can share if others are curious), and
> > obviously, there is the documentation.
> >
> > Just wondering if there is something out there I have missed.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > --
> >
> > Doug Whitfield | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic
> >
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