All valid points, but just to be clear I’m not asking anyone to create one. I’m just asking if anyone knows of anything that exists. It seems like the answer is no, so docs it is!
From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> Date: Monday, March 7, 2022 at 20:40 To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org> Subject: Re: Artemis tutorial? > What I am looking for is a start-to-finish audio or video tutorial. Thanks for the clarification. I don't know of anybody who has comprehensive video or audio resources on ActiveMQ. I've considered investing some time in video resources, but there's a handful of things working against video vs. traditional text documentation. - Videos take longer to produce. Writing good scripts is hard. Making mistakes has a much higher time penalty. - Videos are more expensive to produce. At the very least you need a good mic, good screen capture software, and a quiet room. - Videos are not searchable like text documentation. This is a really big deal with technical material. Folks don't want to waste time with stuff they don't care about. They want to get the info they need and move on. - Videos tend to visibly age more rapidly than text. In most cases, videos on Youtube even from just a few years look markedly worse than new ones. - Videos are harder to edit over time. When important changes happen in later releases you must update the video somehow or recreate it from scratch. We're not presenting the fundamentals of algebra that haven't changed in centuries. - It's tough to know the level of detail your audience wants. Too much detail wastes people's time. Not enough detail means they'll have to read the documentation anyway. In my opinion the return isn't sufficient to justify the investment. I write code for a living. I'm sure there's folks out there who do this kind of stuff for a living or as a hobby where the investment would be much lower. Hope that helps! Justin On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:08 PM Doug Whitfield <dwhitfi...@perforce.com> wrote: > Thanks Justin! > > What I am looking for is a start-to-finish audio or video tutorial. There > are one-off’s such as > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2FVXUvrtBr4&data=04%7C01%7Cdwhitfield%40perforce.com%7C36e43cbcb3a34e15b09f08da00acc9c0%7C95b666d19a7549ab95a38969fbcdc08c%7C0%7C0%7C637823040121105243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Nxab8Mb21Q8w8tYzGgIhymWNXeW5cVDV5duB9Jaa77w%3D&reserved=0 > but the > aforementioned Config Java Tech is the only full course I have found so > far. There is > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqF1Op1ZNBAk&data=04%7C01%7Cdwhitfield%40perforce.com%7C36e43cbcb3a34e15b09f08da00acc9c0%7C95b666d19a7549ab95a38969fbcdc08c%7C0%7C0%7C637823040121105243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=AW3X9%2FakZn15xHIqFDtQDTQAxVY8bgQdp9yZRcj1RkI%3D&reserved=0 > (Linux > Foundation), which is a bit longer, but it’s 5 years old and isn’t really > what I’m looking for anyway. > > Pluralsight has nothing, but perhaps udemy or somewhere else has > something. There are a lot of such sites (edx, Kahn Academy, etc), so > before checking out all of them I figured I would see if anyone had a > *specific* suggestion. > > Good one-offs might be useful too considering the lack of full courses. > > > From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> > Date: Monday, March 7, 2022 at 16:58 > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Artemis tutorial? > I can't speak to what other folks are writing, and I'm not quite sure what > you're looking for so I'll share the resources I have direct knowledge of: > - the main documentation [1] (which you mentioned) > - over 150 examples that ship with the broker demonstrating a specific bit > of functionality > - mailing lists [2] > - Stack Overflow [3] > > Searching for "activemq artemis tutorial" turns up a number of results from > various non-Apache websites. > > If there's something that's not covered in those places feel free to > follow-up with a new thread here. > > > Justin > > [1] > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Factivemq.apache.org%2Fcomponents%2Fartemis%2Fdocumentation%2Flatest%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cdwhitfield%40perforce.com%7C36e43cbcb3a34e15b09f08da00acc9c0%7C95b666d19a7549ab95a38969fbcdc08c%7C0%7C0%7C637823040121105243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=MYZosf7PLFyjRiITIEzxcErsaGsAQrhEeWXIVaCS7wk%3D&reserved=0 > [2] > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Factivemq.apache.org%2Fcontact&data=04%7C01%7Cdwhitfield%40perforce.com%7C36e43cbcb3a34e15b09f08da00acc9c0%7C95b666d19a7549ab95a38969fbcdc08c%7C0%7C0%7C637823040121105243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ngGNW9YNgfB1qGjEKAnuVY5TCV6%2FUOPS6VgvK2UAyGQ%3D&reserved=0 > [3] > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2Ftagged%2Factivemq-artemis&data=04%7C01%7Cdwhitfield%40perforce.com%7C36e43cbcb3a34e15b09f08da00acc9c0%7C95b666d19a7549ab95a38969fbcdc08c%7C0%7C0%7C637823040121105243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=1oYXkL%2BmHid4XfvV2W9WqgjA8cbxzdVYVWxtpw9ny%2Bo%3D&reserved=0 > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 4:06 PM Doug Whitfield <dwhitfi...@perforce.com> > wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > It’s been about 6.5 years since the HornetQ donation, so not sure HornetQ > > tutorials are relevant (should they exist). I haven’t been able to find > > much in the way of Artemis tutorials. I did find one from Config Java > Tech > > (don’t want to be spammy, but can share if others are curious), and > > obviously, there is the documentation. > > > > Just wondering if there is something out there I have missed. > > > > Best Regards, > > -- > > > > Doug Whitfield | Enterprise Architect, OpenLogic > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. > If > > you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any > > attachments and notify us immediately. > > > > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. > > > This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or confidential. 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