@john for what’s worth I am impressed how Justin himself has been good with
the community.  Thanks and kudos to him  :)


On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 3:48 PM John Lilley
<john.lil...@redpointglobal.com.invalid> wrote:

> Wonderful!  I am really impressed how responsive and active the Artemis
> community is.
>
> john
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> [image: rg] <https://www.redpointglobal.com/>
>
> John Lilley
>
> Data Management Chief Architect, Redpoint Global Inc.
>
> 888 Worcester Street, Suite 200 Wellesley, MA 02482
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> *M: *+1 7209385761 <+1%207209385761> | john.lil...@redpointglobal.com
>
> *From:* Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2023 11:21 AM
> *To:* users@activemq.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Messages accumulating in management queue
>
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> Just to follow up...
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>
> I resolved the NPE you mentioned via ARTEMIS-4135 [1]. That was definitely
> a bug.
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> Justin
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>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4135
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>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 6:50 AM John Lilley <
> john.lil...@redpointglobal.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Thanks!  That does it.
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> [image: rg]
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> *John Lilley *
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> *Data Management Chief Architect, Redpoint Global Inc. *
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> 888 Worcester Street, Suite 200 Wellesley, MA 02482
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> *From:* Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2023 12:05 AM
> *To:* users@activemq.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Messages accumulating in management queue
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> Thanks for the project. I was able to reproduce the problem and identify
> the root cause of the message accumulation. In short, your application is
> not acknowledging the messages it receives when invoking
> ClientRequestor.request().
>
>
>
> When using the core protocol messages must always be explicitly
> acknowledged. Whether or not those acknowledgements are committed
> automatically depends on how the session is created. In your case you're
> creating a JMS session using the AUTO_ACKNOWLEDGE mode which means the
> underlying core session has autoCommitAcks = true. This isn't obvious since
> you're starting with a JMS implementation object and acquiring the core
> object from it. It would probably be more clear if you just used the core
> API for everything or the JMS API for everything.
>
>
>
> Lastly, if performance really isn't important then it may be simpler to
> eliminate the lock and the object caching and just create the session, etc.
> anytime you need to make a request. Simpler code is easier to write
> initially as well as debug and maintain in the long run. Developer
> productivity is worth a lot so it's worth considering.
>
>
>
>
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 11:57 AM John Lilley <
> john.lil...@redpointglobal.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Justin,
>
>
>
> Link to sample project:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1--vMXNJ3NIUVlRQ9liaMwa-VN3X5uEOE/view?usp=sharing
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>
>
> Any of the three amqUtils.* calls in the main() loop will induce the
> leakage.   I have not figured out where the second queue in our production
> comes from, but that isn’t critical right now.
>
>
>
> Everything serializes through a single lock object, so I don’t think I
> have any thread-safety issues.  Performance is not important.
>
>
>
> Thanks
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> John
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> *John Lilley
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> 888 Worcester Street, Suite 200 Wellesley, MA 02482
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> *From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023
> 10:31 AM To: users@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: Messages accumulating
> in management queue
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> > Is ClientRequestor cheap to make each time?
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> It's relatively cheap, but of course just about anything can be done
> enough to become expensive over time. Also, a ClientRequestor is not
> thread-safe so a single instance may be a bottleneck in your application. I
> don't know what your performance requirements are, how often you're making
> these calls, etc. so it's hard to provide any specific recommendations.
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> > One of my colleagues found that occasionally closing and re-creating the
> ClientRequestor avoids this problem, but I’d like to know why.
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> I can't rightly say why you're seeing messages build up at this point. The
> screenshot shows that there's a consumer on both queues. Perhaps these
> consumers are no longer acknowledging the messages they receive. You say
> you're only using a single ClientRequestor instance but there's two queues
> which indicates two ClientRequestor instances working concurrently so
> perhaps you're leaking ClientRequestors at some point.
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> Do you have a way to reproduce this? If so, could you create a
> reproducible test-case which I could use to see the same behavior?
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> Justin
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> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 10:55 AM John Lilley <
> *john.lil...@redpointglobal.com.invalid*> wrote:
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> We do keep a singleton ClientRequestor around forever.  Perhaps this is
> just wrong?  Is ClientRequestor cheap to make each time?
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> One of my colleagues found that occasionally closing and re-creating the
> ClientRequestor avoids this problem, but I’d like to know why.
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> I think you can see that image here:
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> john
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> 888 Worcester Street, Suite 200 Wellesley, MA 02482
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> From: Justin Bertram <*jbert...@apache.org*>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 9:48 AM
> *To:* *users@activemq.apache.org*
> *Subject:* Re: Messages accumulating in management queue
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> > I don’t know if that image comes through the mailing list...
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> I can't see your image. For what it's worth, attachments don't usually
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> Could you upload the image to another location and provide a link?
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> Also, could you provide the full stack-trace of the NPE?
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> I don't see in your code where you're actually closing the ClientRequestor
> so that might be a problem. Without more details it's impossible to say.
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> Justin
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> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 10:31 AM John Lilley <
> *john.lil...@redpointglobal.com.invalid*> wrote:
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> Greetings!
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> We are using the Artemis queue-based management APIs, and noticed that one
> of the two management queues that appears in the console starts to grow
> without bound:
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> I don’t know if that image comes through the mailing list, but it shows
> two of the *xn--activemq-2p3d.management*<UUID>”  queues, and one of the
> counts is in the 100s.  It just keeps growing and growing by about 300 per
> minute.
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> I’ve tried to browse this queue on the management console, but the
> browse() operation shows an NPE:
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> java.lang.NullPointerException : Cannot invoke
> "org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.paging.cursor.PageSubscription.iterator(boolean)"
> because "this.this$0.pageSubscription" is null
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> The calls we are making are like:
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> String resourceName = ResourceNames.QUEUE + queueName;
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> ClientRequestor client = getClient();
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> ClientSession clientSession = …
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> ClientMessage request = clientSession.createMessage(false);
> ManagementHelper.putAttribute(request, resourceName, attributeName);
> ClientMessage reply = client.request(request);
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> Or
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> ClientRequestor client = getClient();
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> ClientMessage request = clientSession.createMessage(false);
> ManagementHelper.putAttribute(request, resourceName, attributeName);
> ClientMessage reply = client.request(request);
> if (ManagementHelper.hasOperationSucceeded(reply)) {
>        for (var value : (Object[])ManagementHelper.getResult(reply,
> Object.class)) {
>               result.add(value.toString());
>        }
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> Any idea what we are doing wrong?
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> This happens on windows or linux
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> Artemis version 2.27.0.
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> java –version
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> openjdk 17.0.3 2022-04-19
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> OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-17.0.3+7 (build 17.0.3+7)
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> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-17.0.3+7 (build 17.0.3+7, mixed mode,
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> Thanks
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> john
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> *John Lilley
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