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On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 2:34 PM Haritha Desikan <hdesi...@spscommerce.com>
wrote:

> Actually, slack works too. Can I please get an invite to the slack channel?
>
> From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> Date: Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:29 PM
> To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Redelivered messages do not get transported to broker with
> consumers
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>
> > Is it possible to arrange a call with one of the community support
> members so that I can ask one of our application owners to explain the
> issue in detail?
>
> I don't want to speak for others, but in my experience this is not the kind
> of support provided by the community. Community support is provided on a
> volunteer basis free of charge and pretty much exclusively comes via
> written channels of communication (i.e. mailing lists, Slack, Jira, etc.).
> If you're looking for something beyond this I'd suggest browsing the
> Commercial Support options listed on the website [1].
>
> If you're convinced you're hitting a bug then the absolute best thing you
> can do is report it [2] and provide the simplest way possible to reproduce
> the problem.
>
>
> Justin
>
> [1]
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> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 2:16 PM Haritha Desikan <hdesi...@spscommerce.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to arrange a call with one of the community support
> members
> > so that I can ask one of our application owners to explain the issue in
> > detail?
> >
> > From: Haritha Desikan <hdesi...@spscommerce.com>
> > Date: Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:14 PM
> > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Redelivered messages do not get transported to broker with
> > consumers
> > Another issue I am seeing – the maximum redeliveries on a broker is set
> to
> > 12 before it is sent to DLQ but here (in screenshot) I am seeing the
> > redeliveries have crossed the threshold but still messages are not sent
> to
> > DLQ.
> >
> > The Broker’s config has this setting :
> >
> >   <plugins>
> >     <statisticsBrokerPlugin/>
> >     <redeliveryPlugin fallbackToDeadLetter="true"
> > sendToDlqIfMaxRetriesExceeded="true">
> >       <redeliveryPolicyMap>
> >         <redeliveryPolicyMap>
> >           <redeliveryPolicyEntries>
> >             <redeliveryPolicy maximumRedeliveries="12" queue="&gt;"/>
> >           </redeliveryPolicyEntries>
> >         </redeliveryPolicyMap>
> >       </redeliveryPolicyMap>
> >     </redeliveryPlugin>
> >   </plugins>
> >
> > From: Haritha Desikan <hdesi...@spscommerce.com>
> > Date: Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:35 PM
> > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Redelivered messages do not get transported to broker with
> > consumers
> > Can message consumers use the pooledConnectionFactory class? AWS Active
> MQ
> > documentation specifically has this note “Message consumers should never
> > use the PooledConnectionFactory class.”  Please advise.
> >
> > From: Haritha Desikan <hdesi...@spscommerce.com>
> > Date: Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:05 PM
> > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Redelivered messages do not get transported to broker with
> > consumers
> > This is the reply I got from one of the app developers using these
> brokers.
> >
> > <dependency>
> >     <groupId>org.apache.camel.springboot</groupId>
> >     <artifactId>camel-activemq-starter</artifactId>
> > </dependency>
> > 1:45<
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> > >>
> > this lib is bundled
> > 1:46<
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> > >>
> >     <dependency>
> >       <groupId>org.apache.activemq</groupId>
> >       <artifactId>activemq-broker</artifactId>
> >     </dependency>
> > 1:46<
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> > >>
> > version 5.16.4
> > 1:47<
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> > >>
> > 2. I'm only testing a single instance of the the app and all 10 consumers
> > are always on the same broker
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 1:28:35 PM
> > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Redelivered messages do not get transported to broker with
> > consumers
> >
> > [You don't often get email from jbert...@apache.org. Learn why this is
> > important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
> >
> > What client library (or libraries) are your Java-based applications
> using?
> >
> > Out of curiosity, how come you're using a network of 3 broker pairs if
> you
> > have so few consumers?
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 12:09 PM Haritha Desikan <
> hdesi...@spscommerce.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Justin,
> > >
> > > We are using broker version 5.17.2. All our clients are mostly Java
> based
> > > applications except for one python based app. We have 3 active/standby
> > > pairs of Active MQ brokers connected in this fashion – broker 1 has
> > duplex
> > > connections to both broker 2 and broker 3 , broker 2 has one duplex
> > > connection to broker 3. We have a load balancer in the front that
> directs
> > > traffic to these three brokers.
> > > We notice that there is only one active consumer at a time on either
> one
> > > of the three brokers and the remaining two brokers have no consumers
> > (only
> > > has network connectors that connects them to the other broker).
> > >
> > > This particular issue is only happening when messages are “redelivered”
> > to
> > > a queue and the “JMXDeliveryCount” is more than 2. For example, lets
> say
> > > broker 3 has “redelivered” messages on queue X and then our app
> connects
> > to
> > > broker 2, messages on broker 3 do not move to broker 2 (they just sit
> > there
> > > and broker 2 does not receive any of the redelivered messages).
> However,
> > > after multiple attempts when our app finally connects to broker 3
> (where
> > > redelivered messages are sitting), messages get consumed. This might
> not
> > be
> > > a bigger issue for apps with multiple instances however we have apps
> > with a
> > > single instance that could get affected by this issue.
> > >
> > > Please note that “messages” in the above paragraph refer to only
> > > “redelivered” messages.
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 12:03 PM
> > > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Redelivered messages do not get transported to broker with
> > > consumers
> > > [You don't often get email from jbert...@apache.org. Learn why this is
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> > >
> > > What version of the broker are you using? What kinds of clients are you
> > > using? How are your brokers configured? What is the distribution of
> > > consumers across the queues in the cluster?
> > >
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 10:57 AM Haritha Desikan <
> > hdesi...@spscommerce.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Our company recently decided to make a shift to Active MQ. Our
> > > > infrastructure currently uses a mesh of three active/standby broker
> > pairs
> > > > and we have been facing an issue with the brokers where redelivered
> > > > messages sitting on a queue in one particular broker are not being
> > > > transported to the broker with active consumers on it.
> > > >
> > > > Please provide some guidance/insight as to what can be done in such
> > > > scenarios.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Haritha
> > > > Cloud Systems Engineer
> > > > SPS Commerce
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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