I guess, I don't want to extend this thread to much and make other people 
bored to death but my take on documentation is a little different. You can 
NOT expect newcomers to start writing a lot of documentation without 
knowing well a fairly large framework like Avalon, this approach will add 
even more to the existing confusion around this project. Those that want 
to research code themselves will be OK for their projects and probably 
would not be able to put even more time into making it easier for others. 
You see, when you work for your employer, you usually start with at least 
some form of design document that can be, consequently, converted into 
documentation. Nature of most open-source projects do not support this 
development model since majority of participants come from a "hacker 
mentality" crowd. ...so, probably we will not find any immediate solution, 
unless one wants to write a book (see Struts project as an example).

Well, Aaron is an exception to this rule. He seems to be dedicated to 
making things better (hmm, I still haven't heard from him regarding 
putting pp doc on the Avalon's site).

Thanks to all other participants in this thread for good suggestions. I 
will try to move on with some improvements and also create smaller 
presentations dedicated to different Avalon products. They should include 
solid examples on top of architectural details (...with Aaron's help).

Thanks,

Pawel



From:   "Niclas Hedhman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/02/2004 01:01 AM ZE8
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Subject:        Re: PowerPoint presentation

On Tuesday 02 March 2004 00:20, Pawel X Karendys wrote:
> Possibly, people still miss the fact that in order for Avalon
> framework to be successful it has to be well documented. I guess, I
> shouldn't start another nasty thread on code vs. document & code topic.

Not to diminish Aaron's hard work in the documentation field, we all 
committers are "guilty" of "too much code, and too little docs", and docs 
are 
a somewhat low quality as well.

How can this be overcome?  That's the million dollar question for our 
community. Simply put, we are inviting anyone with documentation interest 
to 
help out in this area. Anything from filling in a line or two on the Wiki, 
to 
patches of the official documentation and to full-scale re-writes of the 
official documentation are most welcome and treated with outmost respect.

Cheers
Niclas

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