Stephen wrote: 

> Daniel Frey wrote:
> 
>> Stephen wrote:
>> 
>>> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday 15 March 2004 16:23, Daniel Frey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Alex for the example. Nice code! I see there that the main
>>>>> frame is generated within the execute method, an approach that I was
>>>>> taking, but was not sure about.
>>>>
>>>> Since I know my own agenda, I recommend that you use the Startable 
>>>> interface instead... I think there will be consensus to remove
>>>> Executable
>> 
>>>> in Framework 5.0, since the Startable can do the same job.
>>>
>>> I think this subject will raise a bit of debate.  Startable is a 
>>> non-blocking operation whereas Executable is in-line execution.  As 
>>> such, you can correlated Initializable and Executable much more closely 
>>> that Executable and Startable.
>> 
>> I think in the execute/start method the main frame is build and shown.
>> But I think a separation of roles would be good in terms of being
>> responsible for 
>> 
>> - an initial setup, coordination of managers and start of the whole
>> application
>> 
>> - a GUI - the main frame (see thread "Merlin for Applications")
>> 
>> Both might implement Initializable, Startable and/or Executable. So which
>> one is now the right one for what exactly?
> 
> Based on what you said above - your describing a service interface 
> equivalent to Executable.  In effect - the framework Executable 
> interface and the semantics it implies on the container/component 
> contract do not allow for the separation of the concerns you describing 
> - however, if you put in place your own Executable and published this as 
> a service that your component provides then you can take control over
> this.
> 
> Actually this is exactly what I did in the last GUI app I built.

Stephen, do you have such an application as a starter for these basic
application design questions? Would be nice for a framework newbie to profit
of the well-done experiences so far.

Daniel


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