There are too many documentation sites and not enough attention paid to the main doc set.

I agree that they ramble around; Topics are thrown in out of place; Some sections in the install are just noise, they have no actions described in them.

There is no clear description of the network setup and that is key to getting it to work.

I have not been able to install it yet and have it work.

I keep waiting for a doc set that is actually correct.
I read the docs and write JIRAs when I can understand enough to describe where it is screwed up.

I have done Unix and Linux system administration for 20 years (CentOS for the last 10) and for 20 years before that ran DEC-10 and VAX sites. I do not have a lot of time to spend on this at the moment but it should be something that should be easy to set up in a few hours. I don't want to run and administer CloudStack, I want to use CloudStack to manage a cloud where I can get my apps up and running more easily on virtual machines.

This should not be as hard to install as it appears to be.


Ron

On 15/08/2013 1:22 PM, Tracy Phillips wrote:
Ron,

As a new user to CloudStack, I couldn't agree with you more.

One thing that would help with a CloudStack install is instructions on setting up the nodes that will host the VM's first... then go into setting up the managment server.

As it is right now, you follow along and getting into the GUI "Wizard" <http://cloudstack.apache.org/docs/en-US/Apache_CloudStack/4.1.1/html/Installation_Guide/management-server-install-flow.html> (the very next step tells you to login to the GUID) before you realize that you need to add a node to connect to first.

And while we are at it... there is documentation everywhere...

http://cloudstack.apache.org/docs/en-US/index.html

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Home

https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/ <-- this should be removed.

Coming from OpenStack, the docs here are a mess, its like they ramble around what is trying to be said.

Just my .02 out of frustration.

Tracy


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com <mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com>> wrote:

    I have 7 unresolved bug issues about the installguide.
    Only 1 of the issues reported have been fixed.

    I have added 3 more and I am sure that there are any more just in
    Section 4 of the install guide.

    The docs need a lot of work and are probably no where near ready
    for release.

    There needs to a test suite for docs. At least a walkthrough of
    the installation to see if it actually works.

    Ron


    On 15/08/2013 2:53 AM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:

        Hi All,

        The docs (installguide, adminguide, release notes) leading up
        to the
        Apache CloudStack 4.2 release will keep building on jenkins
        [1] [2]
        [3] as they are written/fixed/corrected. Please review them to
        help
        fix doc errors. Our tech writing team is very busy working towards
        bettering our docs and will be happy to recieve bug reports
        [4]. You
        should already have recieved notifications of docs added for new
        features. Let us know what you think either via JIRA or an
        email to
        the dev@ list.

        If you would like to contribute to the doc writing, make sure
        to visit
        the compiled wikis written up by Jessica and Radhika:
        https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/hQLMAQ

        [1] http://jenkins.buildacloud.org/job/docs-4.2-adminguide/
        [2] http://jenkins.buildacloud.org/job/docs-4.2-installguide/
        [3] http://jenkins.buildacloud.org/job/docs-4.2-releasenotes/
        [4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/vRvVAQ

        Thanks,



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