Hi Nux,

When have you seen the VMs on KVM behaving in the manner which you are 
expecting?  I recall it didn’t work that way in the mid 4.5 versions (we found 
out the hard way in front of a customer) and it doesn't behave the way you are 
expecting 4.9 - I've just tested it.

You need host-ha enabled to get reliable HA in the event of a host crash, that 
is why we developed the host ha feature.

Kind regards,

Paul Angus

paul.an...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nux! [mailto:n...@li.nux.ro] 
Sent: 23 January 2018 15:06
To: dev <d...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Cc: users <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)

Rohit,

I'll also have to insist with the VM HA issue.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-10246

Lucian

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rohit Yadav" <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
> To: "dev" <d...@cloudstack.apache.org>, "users" 
> <users@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 January, 2018 14:28:34
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)

> All,
> 
> 
> Given we've outstanding blockers and PRs in review/testing, I'll cut 
> RC2 only after we manage to get them reviewed, tested and merged.
> 
> 
> The outstanding PRs considered for RC2 are:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2418 (Properly parse rules 
> for security groups)
> 
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2419 (Password server issue)
> 
> 
> In addition we've following issues to receive fixes:
> 
> - VR - DHCP/dnsmasq leases issue (reported by Ozhan)
> 
> - Dynamic roles upgrade fixes:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-10249
> 
> 
> Please share any other issues you've found, or I've missed. Thanks, 
> and continue testing RC1.
> 
> 
> - Rohit
> 
> <https://cloudstack.apache.org>
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 11:18:27 AM
> To: Paul Angus; users@cloudstack.apache.org; d...@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)
> 
> The same issue applies to any 4.9, 4.10 release. In case of 4.9, we 
> had discussed this as a doc bug and so it must be documented part of 
> the 4.11 release notes as well.
> 
> 
> There are two ways admin can migrate to dynamic roles post-upgrade:
> 
> 
>  1.  Enable dynamic.apichecker.enabled to true which will use the 
> default api  mapping of rules from 4.8 commands.properties and 
> automatic annotation based  and (db-backed) dynamic rules from 4.9+. 
> Or,
> 
>  2.  The migration script is only useful where admins were not using 
> the default  api rule mappings and they strictly want to check/migrate 
> each API. This  approach requires admins to go through new APIs and 
> fix commands.properties  before running the migration scriopt (we've 
> been sharing the new/change API  list in release notes, for example:
>  
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/4.9.3.0/api-changes.html#new-api-commands).
>  (for reference, doc:
>  
> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-administration/e
> n/latest/accounts.html#using-dynamic-roles)
> 
> 
> Unlike the dynamic API checker, the static checker does not even allow 
> the root API to access all the APIs which is why post upgrade, if the 
> UI calls any API that is not allowed for the root admin (in this case 
> the quotaIsEnabled API) the UI will logout the user on API unauthorized 
> failure which is what happened.
> 
> 
> So, we can discuss two fixes:
> 
> - Like dynamic checker, let the static checker allow all APIs only to 
> the root admin (id=1) (I would not prefer to change the legacy 
> behaviour though)
> 
> - During upgrade, if commands.properties is missing we set the global 
> setting to true, i.e. switch to dynamic roles (which would happen if 
> someone tries to upgrade from 4.5->4.11 using a new mgmt server if 
> they fail to copy the commands.properties file from /usr/share or /etc paths).
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> - Rohit
> 
> <https://cloudstack.apache.org>
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue
> 
> 
> 
> 
> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue
>  
> 
> 
> From: Paul Angus
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:24:25 AM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: Rohit Yadav; d...@cloudstack.apache.org; Daan Hoogland
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)
> 
> If I've understood the issue correctly, "not being able to log in if upgrading
> from 4.5" is a blocker in my book.   I don't think that it should be the duty
> of the Admin, to fix our oversights.  Migration to the use of dynamic 
> roles is also broken as the command will be missing from 
> commands.properties in the first place, so the 'migrated' commands will not 
> be complete.
> 
> As there will need to be an RC2, IMO this upgrade issue should be 
> fixed as part of it.
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Paul Angus
> 
> 
> VP Technology
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Stoyanov [mailto:boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com]
> Sent: 22 January 2018 07:31
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: Rohit Yadav <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>; 
> d...@cloudstack.apache.org; Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogl...@shapeblue.com>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)
> 
> Hi Paul,
> Migration script considers only what’s in the command.properties file, 
> so if the ‘missing’ quotaIsEnabled=15 is not there it will not create 
> a rule for it. As Rohit mentioned it’s a duty of the admin to take 
> care of aligning this up. I’m also not big fan of having this 
> described in release notes, but would like to be included 
> automatically during upgrade. Main argument against it, its not a blocker.
> 
> Bobby.
> 
> 
> boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue
> 
> 
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2018, at 19:04, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
>>
>> OK, just to confirm ‘we’ the community have basically deprecated the 
>> use of commands.properties?
>>
>> But for people upgrading from a version before dynamic roles,  does 
>> the migration script take into account (or need to take into account) the 
>> ‘missing’
>> quotaIsEnabled=15 parameter?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Rohit Yadav
>> Sent: 19 January 2018 09:27
>> To: users <users@cloudstack.apache.org>; d...@cloudstack.apache.org; 
>> Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)
>>
>>
>> Hi Bobby,
>>
>>
>>
>> Agree, it's not user-friendly which is why admins should migrate to 
>> the dynamic roles feature. But I'm not sure if this is a blocker and 
>> if an admin wants to stick to the old static (commands.properties) 
>> way, they need to manage changes themselves. We may add something to 
>> the release notes /cc @Paul Angus<mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com>.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Rohit
>>
>>
>>
>> Software Architect
>> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com<mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Boris Stoyanov
>> <boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com<mailto:boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 2:51:32 PM
>> To: users
>> Cc: d...@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:d...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)
>>
>> Hi Rohit,
>>
>> That doesn’t sound much user friendly what do you think? Can we look 
>> for a way to automate this dependency in the upgrade process?
>>
>> Bobby.
>>
>>
>> boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com<mailto:boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com>
>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 19 Jan 2018, at 10:50, Rohit Yadav
>>> <rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com<mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bobby,
>>>
>>>
>>> I checked the 4.5-4.11 upgrade environment, due to the nature of how static
>>> checker with commands.properties work, admins will be required to add/update
>>> new API/ACLs in the commands.properties file.
>>>
>>> Adding the following to commands.properties file and restarting mgmt server
>>> fixes the issue:
>>>
>>> quotaIsEnabled=15
>>>
>>>
>>> Please continue testing, thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Rohit
>>>
>>> <https://cloudstack.apache.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Boris Stoyanov
>>> <boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com<mailto:boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 6:54:28 PM
>>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:users@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>> Cc: d...@cloudstack.apache.org<mailto:d...@cloudstack.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.11.0.0 (LTS)
>>>
>>> I think I’ve hit a blocker when upgrading to 4.11
>>>
>>> Here’s the jira id: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-10236
>>>
>>> I’ve upgraded from 4.5 to 4.11, then I’ve logged in with admin and got 
>>> session
>>> expired immediately.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Boris Stoyanov
>>>
>>>
>>> boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com<mailto:boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com>
>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> @shapeblue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com<mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com>
>>> www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
>>> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
>>> @shapeblue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 Jan 2018, at 8:42, Tutkowski, Mike
>>> <mike.tutkow...@netapp.com<mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com<mailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com%3cmailto:mike.tutkow...@netapp.com>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> For the past couple days, I have been running the KVM managed-storage
>>> regression-test suite against RC1.
>>>
>>> With the exception of one issue (more on this below), all of these tests 
>>> have
>>> passed.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow I plan to start in on the VMware-related managed-storage tests.
>>>
>>> Once I’ve completed running those, I expect to move on to the 
>>> XenServer-related
>>> managed-storage tests.
>>>
>>> I ran these XenServer and VMware tests just prior to RC1 being created, so I
>>> suspect all of those tests will come back successful.
>>>
>>> Now, with regards to the one issue I found on KVM with managed storage:
>>>
>>> It relates to a new feature whereby you can online migrate the storage of a 
>>> VM
>>> from NFS or Ceph to managed storage.
>>>
>>> During the code-review process, I made a change per a suggestion and it
>>> introduced an issue with this feature. The solution is just a couple lines 
>>> of
>>> code and only impacts this one use case. If you are testing this release
>>> candidate and don’t really care about this particular feature, it should 
>>> not at
>>> all impact your ability to test RC1.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2018, at 4:33 AM, Rohit Yadav
>>> <ro...@apache.org<mailto:ro...@apache.org<mailto:ro...@apache.org%3cmailto:ro...@apache.org>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've created a 4.11.0.0 release, with the following artifacts up for
>>> testing and a vote:
>>>
>>> Git Branch and Commit SH:
>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/4.11.0.0-RC20180115T1603
>>> Commit: 1b8a532ba52127f388847690df70e65c6b46f4d4
>>>
>>> Source release (checksums and signatures are available at the same
>>> location):
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cloudstack/4.11.0.0/
>>>
>>> PGP release keys (signed using 5ED1E1122DC5E8A4A45112C2484248210EE3D884):
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/cloudstack/KEYS
>>>
>>> The vote will be open for 72 hours.
>>>
>>> For sanity in tallying the vote, can PMC members please be sure to indicate
>>> "(binding)" with their vote?
>>>
>>> [ ] +1  approve
>>> [ ] +0  no opinion
>>> [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
>>>
>>> Additional information:
>>>
>>> For users' convenience, I've built packages from
>>> 1b8a532ba52127f388847690df70e65c6b46f4d4 and published RC1 repository here:
>>> http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/testing/4.11-rc1
>>>
>>> The release notes are still work-in-progress, but the systemvmtemplate
>>> upgrade section has been updated. You may refer the following for
>>> systemvmtemplate upgrade testing:
>>> http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-release-notes/en/latest/index.html
>>>
>>> 4.11 systemvmtemplates are available from here:
>>> https://download.cloudstack.org/systemvm/4.11/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rohit Yadav

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