Chris,

A few people have replied off-list, so I'll reply to the list since there seems to be some interest. From a look around OFBiz it seemed that the CRM modules are not yet very well developed, is that correct? The architecture looks pretty good, and there's certainly some activity there. Compiere again, when I looked at it, seemed strong in other areas - particularly ERP - but not what I was after for a CRM and "groupware" tool. Since I've worked with a number of these CRM beasts, most recently SalesForce and SalesNet, I was considering writing a very basic one that just meets our immediate needs using Cocoon.

Jeff Davis' post referred me to Thinlet - which is hugely attractive as a presentation layer. I'm just trying to work out whether Compiere / OFBiz are worth the extra investment on the server side, Cocoon seems to provide most of the architecture I need - auth, hibernate for persistence, flow etc. Given my simple requirements, and heeding Clay Shirky's advice on KISS:
http://www.shirky.com/writings/situated_software.html
what do you feel would be the major benefits of using OFBiz+Cocoon instead of just Cocoon?


We do not need a retail front end - high-value software, every sale involves sales people - though if we did OFBiz would be much more appealing.

Thanks for your suggestions thus far.

Best Regards,
Thomas.

At 15:41 09/04/2004, Chris Chesney wrote:

Thomas,

OFBiz is a java-based platform that implements a service-oriented
architecture and does a pretty good job separating concerns.  To
simplify, it has a persistence layer, a service layer and an MVC layer
for web clients.  A Cocoon app could integrate/utilize OFBiz at various
levels.  How (specifically) were you intending on using Cocoon in this
context?  Feel free to take this offline if you feel it wouldn't be
appropriate for this list.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CRM or Sales Force Automation using Cocoon?

Hi,

Is anyone aware of a Sales Force Automation or Customer Relationship
Management system built using Cocoon? Something with the functionality
of
www.salesforce.com or similar would be ideal. There are some intersting
OSS
projects out there for doing CRM, including OFBIZ, Compiere and
Hipergate,
but Cocoon is just so good I want to keep as much as possible of what we

build using the Cocoon platform. Any suggestions?

FWIW, other CRM tools can be found in a recent posting at
http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=1
25515

Pointers, anyone?

Thanks,
Thomas.


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