Re: New wiki - impressions?

[Upayavira]

Derek Hohls wrote:
Upayavira
Uh, I wasn't really serious here, you know.
 

I didn't! Thanks for clarifying!
But I think its good that people do know the
benefits of the move... perhaps, as always,
good comms around this change will help
raise awareness and block any (temporary)
negative perceptions relating to smaller
details.
 

Well, to be honest, what discussion there has been has been happening on 
the developer list. I guess I was remiss in not announcing the previous 
attempts at the conversion here on users. I apologise for this.

I believe benefits have already been said in this thread, and I don't 
intend to repeat them (uness you want to hear them again.)

Thanks,
Upayavira
Derek
 

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Derek Hohls wrote:
 

Upayavira
So are you saying "tough, we have to fit into some
Apache 'corporate image' ?!"... ah, I already miss the
wild free days of the "Independant Cocoon Wiki" -
maybe a small group of rebels will start a new, hidden
site somewhere on the far side of the world...

   

Not at all. We had a situation where we had a JSPWiki that was Cocoon's
only. The result of that was, whilst it worked, we didn't have people 
who were in a position to enhance it. To get access to it, Steven had
to 
give specific access to his own server (which he has generously done
for 
some of us).

Now, we are sharing the job of maintaining our wiki with the entire 
Apache community, which will lead to a far greater range of people able

to assist. Also, as the wiki is hosted on Apache hardware, potentially
all Apache/Cocoon committers can become involved in its maintenance. 
Lastly, any changes and enhancements that we make will be available to

the whole of Apache (for example the 'must sign in to post anti-spam' 
approach).

So, I hope that this will be a change in direction, but there's no 
reason why we can't innovate, and lead the whole Apache community in 
terms of what can be done with a wiki site. As David has said, we can
do 
our own custom configurations on our wiki.

Regards, Upayavira
 

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Jorg Heymans wrote:

   

PS Oh yes, maybe its just my screen, some of the useful
buttons (all very tiny!!) get hidden behind the top 'blue box'
menu unless I make my browser window veeerrryyy wide.
    

       

what browser is that? For me they are displayed over the blue box, a
  

     


   

bit messy but at least they are all clickable (Firefox 0.9, windows)
  

     

An extra link or two were added to the list of links along the top. 
Makes it a bit ugly on a narrow window.

We need to reduce the number of 'text' links along the top.
Note, any things we think need changing, we should think about the
whole 
of Apache, not just Cocoon, as this new Wiki is a part of the Apache 
wide wiki farm. So anything that is wrong on our wiki, will be wrong
   

on
 

all Apache wikis.
In fact, ours already goes further than other Apache wikis, in that
   

we
 

have authentication configured.
Regards, Upayavira

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