Thank you very much! I thought my mistake in understanding. I've checked what we talked and I will start new thread.
>Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 11:19 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <njbartl...@gmail.com>: > > > > >On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 10:58, Alex Sviridov wrote: > >> To tell the truth I am totally confused. I thought that DS work this way: >> Aa bundle with ds.xml file is loaded by osgi framework and ds framework >> reads xml files and creates osgi services. >> >> > > >Yes this is correct. >> >> So maven plugin is used for generating this ds xml files. Am I wrong? > >No, this is also correct! But you are using the wrong plugin: maven-scr-plugin >is obsolete, and understands a different set of annotations. > >These days the annotation processing is done directly by bnd, which is part of >the maven-bundle-plugin (or bnd-maven-plugin). > >> >> >> > Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 10:31 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett < >> > njbartl...@gmail.com >: >> > >> > Alex, what is the relevance of the maven-scr-plugin? The annotations are >> > processed directly by bnd, but only in the (unreleased) version 3.0. A >> > separate Maven plugin is not required. >> > >> > The annotation library, which you will need as a dependency to compile >> > your own code, is here: >> > https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations >> > < >> > https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/tree/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations >> > > >> > >> > Regards, >> > Neil >> > >> > > On 17 Jul 2015, at 09:40, Alex Sviridov < ooo_satu...@mail.ru > wrote: >> > > >> > > I don't understand you. I use >> > > <artifactId>org.apache.felix.scr.annotations</artifactId> >> > > <version>1.9.12</version> and >> > > <artifactId>maven-scr-plugin</artifactId> <version>1.21.0</version>. So >> > > annotations are needed only for generating by maven ds.xml files. >> > > >> > > But I don't know - if this maven src plugin supports DS scope. How can I >> > > find it out? If it doesn't support, then setting scope in @Component >> > > won't help, will it? >> > > >> > > >> > > > Пятница, 17 июля 2015, 1:07 -04:00 от Raymond Auge < >> > > > raymond.a...@liferay.com >: >> > > > >> > > > Since the annotations are build time only, usually you'll only find >> > > > those in tools which support DS 1.3 annotations. The most common case >> > > > of this is bnd. So, if you get your hands on bnd 3.0(in development) >> > > > it will contain those... >> > > > >> > > > Or you could look here >> > > > https://github.com/bndtools/bnd/blob/master/cnf/repo/org.osgi.service.component.annotations/org.osgi.service.component.annotations-1.3.0.jar >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_satu...@mail.ru >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > Ray, I have to ask you for help again. I tried the code you provided >> > > > > using osgi 6.0.0 however there is no scope in >> > > > > org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 12:19 -05:00 от Raymond Auge < >> > > > > > raymond.a...@liferay.com >: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > that's kind of the point... it's not public yet! I think, right >> > > > > > now, you'll >> > > > > > have to check where the scr project is getting it from. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > - Ray >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Alex Sviridov < >> > > > > > ooo_satu...@mail.ru > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Could you say, from what maven dependency you get ServiceScope? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge < >> > > > > > > raymond.a...@liferay.com >: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > @org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component( >> > > > > > > > immediate = false, >> > > > > > > > name = "default", >> > > > > > > > scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE >> > > > > > > > ) >> > > > > > > > public class MyClass implements MyInterface{} >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < >> > > > > > > > ooo_satu...@mail.ru > >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I >> > > > > > > > > mean how >> > > > > > > > > stable it is. >> > > > > > > > > And the second question how can I make prototype scope in >> > > > > > > > > the following >> > > > > > > > > example: >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > @Component (immediate = false) >> > > > > > > > > @Property (name = "name",value = "default") >> > > > > > > > > @Service >> > > > > > > > > public class MyClass implements MyInterface{} >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge < >> > > > > > > > > raymond.a...@liferay.com >: >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which >> > > > > > > > > > supports >> > > > > > > prototype >> > > > > > > > > > scope. That will only come out in the next couple months. >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you >> > > > > > > > > > could build >> > > > > > > from >> > > > > > > > > > source. >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > - Ray >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < >> > > > > > > > > > ooo_satu...@mail.ru >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find >> > > > > > > > > > > information >> > > > > > > > > how >> > > > > > > > > > > to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing. >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett < >> > > > > > > > > > > njbartl...@gmail.com >: >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes and no. Mostly no. >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a >> > > > > > > > > > > > year old, does >> > > > > > > > > > > include the ability for service consumers to obtain new >> > > > > > > > > > > service >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > instances >> > > > > > > > > > > under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). >> > > > > > > > > > > However the >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > CDI >> > > > > > > > > > > implementation you are using would also have to have >> > > > > > > > > > > support for this >> > > > > > > > > > > feature. So your question relates to the CDI >> > > > > > > > > > > implementation… if it >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > has a >> > > > > > > > > > > mailing list then you should ask there. >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards >> > > > > > > > > > > > Neil >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ooo_satu...@mail.ru > >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I >> > > > > > > > > > > > > understand both >> > > > > > > pax >> > > > > > > > > > > (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) >> > > > > > > > > > > work with osgi >> > > > > > > > > > > "registry". >> > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is the question about how to get new service >> > > > > > > > > > > > > instance for >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > every >> > > > > > > > > > > consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this >> > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list is the >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > right place. I think so... >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett >> > > > > > > > > > > > > < >> > > > > > > > > > > njbartl...@gmail.com >: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > This list might not be the best place to ask about >> > > > > > > > > > > > > CDI, since it >> > > > > > > is a >> > > > > > > > > > > Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as >> > > > > > > > > > > far as I can >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > see. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you >> > > > > > > > > > > > > within a very >> > > > > > > > > narrow >> > > > > > > > > > > niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer >> > > > > > > > > > > to your >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > question, or >> > > > > > > > > > > that what you want to achieve is not possible with the >> > > > > > > > > > > current >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > tools. If >> > > > > > > > > > > you are willing to invest in improving those tools >> > > > > > > > > > > yourself then you >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > might >> > > > > > > > > > > make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend >> > > > > > > > > > > finding a >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > different >> > > > > > > > > > > solution. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ooo_satu...@mail.ru >> > > > > > > > > <x-msg: >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_satu...@mail.ru >> > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > question about using >> > > > > > > > > > > getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to >> > > > > > > > > > > work with CDI >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > at >> > > > > > > > > this >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list and at stackoverflow >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues >> > > > > > > > > > > < >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like CDI (as I >> > > > > > > > > > > understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could >> > > > > > > > > > > help, as the >> > > > > > > > > > > question is very important for >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me and I can't continue work without getting >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > certain answer. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bartlett < >> > > > > > > > > > > njbartl...@gmail.com <x-msg: // >> > > > > > > > > > > e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartl...@gmail.com >> > > > > > > > > > > >>: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ooo_satu...@mail.ru >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > <>> >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't got any messages from this mailing >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list. Is it dead? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < >> > > > > > > > > > http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile > >> > > > > > > > > > (@rotty3000) >> > > > > > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >> > > > > > > > > > http://www.liferay.com > >> > > > > > > > > > (@Liferay) >> > > > > > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < >> > > > > > > > > > http://osgi.org > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > (@OSGiAlliance) >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > Alex Sviridov >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < >> > > > > > > > http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile > >> > > > > > > > (@rotty3000) >> > > > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >> > > > > > > > http://www.liferay.com > >> > > > > > > > (@Liferay) >> > > > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > (@OSGiAlliance) >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > Alex Sviridov >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > *Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile > >> > > > > > (@rotty3000) >> > > > > > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < >> > > > > > http://www.liferay.com > >> > > > > > (@Liferay) >> > > > > > Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > >> > > > > > (@OSGiAlliance) >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Alex Sviridov >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Raymond Augé (@rotty3000) >> > > > Senior Software Architect Liferay, Inc. (@Liferay) Board Member & EEG >> > > > Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance (@OSGiAlliance) >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Alex Sviridov >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Alex Sviridov >> >> > > -- Alex Sviridov
