Thanks, but the first of the 3 image is missing. I only see the image text.


Am 09.08.2013 um 10:13 schrieb Tom Chiverton <[email protected]>:

> It's the first screen shot on 
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.ev.reports.ReportsMobile&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImFpci5jb20uZXYucmVwb3J0cy5SZXBvcnRzTW9iaWxlIl0.
> 
> I try and have a chat about the source today but there's honestly not much 
> too it if you do it as a standalone component ...
> 
> Tom
> 
> On 08/08/2013 12:39, Marcus Fritze wrote:
>> Tom,
>> 
>> a working example would be nice, to see what your list already can do.
>> 
>> If it's possible for you that your company is willing to make this component
>> open-source, then it would be nice to take a look at the component. ;-)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> Am 08.08.2013 um 12:00 schrieb Tom Chiverton <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> I'm afraid not, at the moment it's only used in our mobile app, and you 
>>> need an account with us to use it. I've just noticed our Store listing 
>>> doesn't show this page too :-)
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> On 08/08/2013 10:17, Marcus Fritze wrote:
>>>> Tom,
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have an example online?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Marcus
>>>> 
>>>> Am 08.08.2013 um 10:24 schrieb Tom Chiverton <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>>> We didn't implement it as a subclass of list or a new skin or anything 
>>>>> that complicated, just another component that sits along side the list, 
>>>>> you tell it the list to attach to and it scans the dataProvider to make 
>>>>> the list of letters, then calls ensureItemIsVisible on the list when a 
>>>>> letter is clicked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I may be able to get the code contributed if this approach is preferred.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 07/08/2013 22:01, Marcus Fritze wrote:
>>>>>> @Maurice
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for the images.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @Om
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, thanks. But, at first I have to "understand" how List internally 
>>>>>> works and what the best
>>>>>> way for creating this new component is.
>>>>>> So it will take some time until I have a first "alpha version" of the 
>>>>>> indexed list. ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So don't blame me if the new component is not ready next week. :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 07.08.2013 um 22:42 schrieb Maurice Amsellem 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Screenshot from MAX 2011 Companion , showing the flex indexed list 
>>>>>>> running on ipad:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldwbbkpdedka3ja/Photo%2007-08-13%2022%2033%2056.png
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1cbc458a24j2q1x/Photo%2007-08-13%2022%2034%2020.png
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> De : Marcus Fritze [[email protected]]
>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 21:18
>>>>>>> À : [email protected]
>>>>>>> Objet : Re: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, I thought someone (maybe Adobe or anybody else) already have a 
>>>>>>> working indexed list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And is willing to donate this to Flex. So we don't have to invest our 
>>>>>>> time in developing this
>>>>>>> component, when this already exists.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think I will take a look how List / ListBase internally works and I 
>>>>>>> maybe try to developing
>>>>>>> such a list. I have to look which component should be extended (List or 
>>>>>>> ListBase).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Of course any help is appreciated. ;-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 07.08.2013 um 19:27 schrieb Adam Malejko <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Android version is definitely AIR and has the SWF in it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.conference.maxcompanion2011&hl=en
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It doesn't act like a native Android indexed list, but works pretty 
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>> I'm sure someone on this list could reverse engineer it well enough.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Maurice Amsellem <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Actually, This is not really an AIR app, but AIR app converted to iOS
>>>>>>>>> native app.
>>>>>>>>> So the .ipa does not include the SWF.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I thought you could install it on your device, but I now realize this 
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> not possible since it comes from the App-Store.
>>>>>>>>> And since it's not on the App store anymore, they is no way to run it 
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> your device (at least not with legal means ;-)
>>>>>>>>> Sorry.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All I can do is send you the screenshots later.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>> De : Marcus Fritze [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 12:18
>>>>>>>>> À : [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Objet : Re: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes this seems to be a AIR app.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> But I can't find the swf inside the ipa to test the app? (I can't 
>>>>>>>>> open the
>>>>>>>>> ipa on my device because I didn't loaded the app from the app-store.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 07.08.2013 um 11:09 schrieb Maurice Amsellem <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the link to the ipa package:
>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12169005/MAX%202011%201.192.ipa
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The app is free, so I hope this is legal :-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I will upload screenshots later when I get to my iPad.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>>> De : Marcus Fritze [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 10:16
>>>>>>>>>> À : [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Objet : Re: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> First of all thanks to all the feedback to my original message (which
>>>>>>>>> was on the dev list).
>>>>>>>>>> To be honest, I don't know which list (dev or users) is the correct 
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> for discussion this issue.
>>>>>>>>>> I thought dev would be the right one, because finally we develop a 
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> component or an existing component will be donated to Flex. But 
>>>>>>>>> anyway,
>>>>>>>>> thanks for all the feedback, regardless on which list.
>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded the MAX 2011 app. Yes, there is such an indexed list.
>>>>>>>>> Really hard to say if it is Flex or native when you only see the app 
>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>>>> @Maurice
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please can you send me the screenshots to my e-mail? Or maybe the MAX
>>>>>>>>> Companion MAX 2011 1.192.ipa package?
>>>>>>>>>> Am 07.08.2013 um 09:56 schrieb Maurice Amsellem <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem
>>>>>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 09:55
>>>>>>>>>>> À : [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Objet : RE: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, I got confused because there are two similar apps:
>>>>>>>>>>> - MAX 2011, made by AJ Software & Multimedia, which is a native app,
>>>>>>>>>>> and still on the App Store (package = MAX 2011 1.0.13*.ipa)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - MAX Companion, made by Adobe, which is an AIR app, and NOT on the
>>>>>>>>>>> app store anymore  (package = MAX 2011 1.192.ipa)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Both have the indexed list  (although one is native and the other
>>>>>>>>> emulated in Flex), but I cannot attach screenshots to this mailing 
>>>>>>>>> list to
>>>>>>>>> show you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 09:42
>>>>>>>>>>> À : [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Objet : RE: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have found a way to know whether an app from the app store is made
>>>>>>>>> with AIR:
>>>>>>>>>>> If you unzip the .ipa package (for MAX 2011, it's one named MAX 2011
>>>>>>>>> 1.x.ipa), you will notice a folder named "META-INF" with the following
>>>>>>>>> structure META-INF/
>>>>>>>>>>> AIR/
>>>>>>>>>>>    Application.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>    <content>MaxCompanion2011.swf</content>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That's not a 100% proof, but really a good clue that this was made 
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> AIR.
>>>>>>>>>>> Even AIR mobile apps that are compiled to native code have this
>>>>>>>>> structure,  and native apps never have it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Try for yourself testing on apps from the App Store (mostly games), 
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> could be surprised...
>>>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>>>> De : Swen van Zanten [mailto:[email protected]] Envoyé : mercredi 7 
>>>>>>>>>>> août
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 09:07 À : [email protected] Objet : Re: Flex ios Indexed
>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This app is made in native code.. This is not an air app.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> SWEN VAN ZANTEN
>>>>>>>>>>> Hoofdstraat 160
>>>>>>>>>>> 2171 BL, Sassenheim
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Op 7 aug. 2013, om 01:27 heeft Maurice Amsellem <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone (Mick Powell <[email protected]>) asked on the dev 
>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> about inclusion of "ios indexed list" for Mobile Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember a few years ago,  Adobe released a nice mobile app for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> MAX
>>>>>>>>> 2011, called "Adobe MAX 2011",  written for sure in AIR, and 
>>>>>>>>> including a
>>>>>>>>> nice implementation of the indexed list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's still on the app store,  search for "ADOBE MAX 2011" and look 
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the screenshots.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know, now that Adobe has left Flex, if they could donate the
>>>>>>>>>>>> source code for these list
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it belongs to another  company  (App store says editor is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> AJ
>>>>>>>>> Software & Multimedia "http://aj-software.com/";).
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maurice Amsellem
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