OK, if I accept everything that has been said, then why wouldn't opening an in-memory r/w copy be the sensible default action?
On 8 October 2012 13:08, Marcello Romani <mrom...@ottotecnica.com> wrote: > Il 05/10/2012 17:18, Marcello Romani ha scritto: > >> Il 05/10/2012 16:31, webmaster-Kracked_P_P ha scritto: >> >>> On 10/05/2012 10:10 AM, Marcello Romani wrote: >>> >>>> Il 05/10/2012 11:07, John Clegg ha scritto: >>>> >>>>> One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO >>>>> behaves >>>>> differently. If I open a spreadsheet from an email or the web it >>>>> places a >>>>> copy in the download folder/directory and Calc always opens it >>>>> read-only >>>>> whereas Excel opens it as read-write. I would like at least an >>>>> option to >>>>> get Calc to open it as read-write. To do so I have to save a copy >>>>> before I start, and as I do this around 100 times a day it becomes >>>>> quite an >>>>> irritant. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It's just a "modify document" button click away. But I guess it's more >>>> a "problem" of the web browser or e-mail client rather than OOo/LibO >>>> as such. >>>> >>>> The browser / e-mail client puts a read-only file in the user temp >>>> folder, then passes its full path to OOo/LibO for reading. OOo/LibO >>>> will just notice it's a readonly file and will behave accordingly. >>>> >>>> Hopefully someone with more technicall indsight into this can confirm >>>> or correct me ? >>>> >>>> >>> This open as a read only is a "security feature" from before LO came >>> out. I remembering it doing the same with OpenOffice.org and MSO-2003. >>> >>> The file, at least with Thunderbird, that come in an email attachment is >>> stored in a TEMP folder. Those files are, by nature, read-only till >>> they get saved outside the TEMP [/tmp for Linux] folder. >>> >>> I know it is a hassle for people but I really do not want to have any >>> email attachments placed in a "normal" data folder without me saving it >>> there. That way I control what gets saved from the email and then all >>> the other stuff is removed with the deletion cycle of the email client's >>> TEMP folder content. >>> >>> We must think safety first and deal with the hassles like this, or could >>> suffer a email that places their attachment file anywhere it wants to be >>> and may be overwrite a working file with the same name or worse a system >>> file. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> If those files weren't read only there would be other, more serious >> complaints from users (I had one). >> The user would doubleclick on an attachment and have it open r/w in >> OOo/LibO/MSO. He would start modifying it right away (no hassle!), then >> save it. Then close the word processor and forget about it. >> Then after a little while go to the IT guy asking where the hell is that >> document that he just "saved". >> >> Being readonly, instead, forces the user to click on that damned icon, >> so the program produces an in-memory r/w copy of the document that will >> trigger a "save as" procedure when the user would click "save". >> >> > > There was a missing bit in my description: if the attachment would be > opened R/W, the file would be saved in the user's temp folder. So it would > be lost at best, or in worst case scenario deleted as temp folders gets > cleaned. > > -- > Marcello Romani > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.** > org <users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org> > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** > unsubscribe/<http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** > Netiquette <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > List archive: > http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/<http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/> > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
