Hi :) Just found this link again too. Any good for inspiration for the wiki? Regards from Tom :)
>________________________________ > From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmas...@krackedpress.com> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 15:56 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart > > >I think LO is easier to use than MSO2003. That was before the "Ribbon" >UI was created. What I hated about MSO-2003-Word, was how long it took >to be to the point where I could do anything. Then there were all these >side-bar options that I could not get to stop showing up and slowing >down my use of Word. LO, even at its slowest opening versions was >faster to get to the point of typing/editing my document. > >Yes, the UI is different than MSO and we need to see about some >graphic/chart showing new users where the options are in the menu-bar. >I know some packages show that type of thing in a printed sheet for new >users. I had one for MSO. > >A company called BarCharts, Inc. does a very good job creating quick >study guides. I have some of their Math and Science laminated "QUICK >STUDY Academic" sheets. I find that they were great for helping me with >the formulas needs when I was substituting as a Math teacher. I have >not bought any since the late 90's, but the company seems to have 5 or >10 times the number of titles since I bought the sheets from them. > >Word 2010 sheet - http://www.barcharts.com/Inventory/Navision/9781423214526 > >This company has MSO guides, but no LibreOffice ones. It would be >interesting if we could get such a quick reference guide sheet created >for LibreOffice. The basics should not change over the various >versions. The basic UI and menu option placements should not change >[much] between lines either. > > > >On 11/14/2012 10:18 AM, Tom Davies wrote: >> Hi :) >> +1 >> They often seem to think it's going to take them just as long to learn LO as >> it took them to learn MSO. Of course it takes a lot less time because most >> of the ideas are the same or similar. >> >> I'm currently struggling with a lady that seems determined to use the >> space-bar instead of; tabs, indents, centre, right-aligned, columns, >> tables. Most people have taken years to learn those sorts of things and >> seem to think they are going to have to re-learn all of that. >> >> Today she protested that LO wasn't as easy as i had made out but my boss (an >> MS fanboy) stepped in and somehow told her nicely a better way = to do the >> typing first and then apply formatting afterwards! Fantastic!! :) >> >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Dr. R. O Stapf <reinh...@stapf-online.com> >>> To: Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk> >>> Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 14:05 >>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison >>> Chart >>> >>> >>> Paying special attention to the Styles Chapters is definitely important; >>> maybe the most important chapters to look at. >>> >>> A guidance for LibO beginners could help to move people from MSO to >> LibO. I observe that many people are sticking with MSO because with >> huge efforts they learned to use MSO (most often just very basics) >> and don't want to take an effort to learn something new without a >> good guidance. >>> >>> On 2012-11-14 20:38, Tom Davies wrote: >>> >>> Hi:) >>>> I think just working through the "Getting Started" guide helps >> hugely. Pay special attention to the Styles chapter. >>>> wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications >>>> >>>> I had to help someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a >> total Pita. Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with >> MS-anything so; >>>> 1. They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people learn >> to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them >> unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system >>>> 2. There is some hope of pushing them straight into using LO >>>> Regards from >>>> Tom :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Dr. R. O Stapf <reinh...@stapf-online.com> >>>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 8:00 >>>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison >>>>> Chart >>>>> >>>>> When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the >> change of a font, but getting something which >>>>> helps to understand how Writer work and a support to >> "unlearn" Word. I am currently struggling with >>>>> unlearning Word and Power Point. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote: >>>>>> Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface >> with Word 2007, so any >>>>>> chart made for Word 2003 could be very different >> for one made for Word 2007. >>>>>> I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for >> LibO and Word, in many >>>>>> ways, just think differently. LibO uses not only >> paragraph styles but also >>>>>> page styles, which is a completely foreign concept >> to MS. So, it's not just >>>>>> about hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the >> right order; it's about >>>>>> relearning how to create, edit, and format >> documents. There are typically >>>>>> several ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO >> method that is most like >>>>>> Word may not be the best way to get things done. To >> get the most out of >>>>>> LibO, you might find yourself having to >> deliberately unlearn Word. To be >>>>>> sure, you can find things in the Writer menu that >> are similar to the Word >>>>>> menu, but the power of an office suite comes in >> learning how the program >>>>>> thinks, which is working at a deeper level than >> simply selecting a font from >>>>>> a drop-down box, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Virgil >>>>>> >>>>>> ps. Can someone "fix" the annoying feature of this >> list that you must hit "reply all" to send a >>>>>> reply to the list? I'm constantly sending out >> duplicates of my messages because my first one only >>>>>> went to one person. No other list I belong to has >> that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for the >>>>>> rerun. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dr. R. O Stapf >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AM >>>>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre >> Writer - Comparison Chart >>>>>> I know that the creation of such a tool would take >> very important dev resources, but it would be a >>>>>> good tool to promote LIbO Writer. >>>>>> >>>>>> But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know >> a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or >>>>>> 2010?)/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you >> how to perform certain >>>>>>> tasks in Word compared to how you effect them >> in WordPerfect. >>>>>>> It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if >> you've been a WordPerfect user. >>>>>>> Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in >> WordPerfect but that same >>>>>>> task is done with different function key >> combinations in Word >>>>>>> I was wondering if anyone has come across a >> similar comparison chart >>>>>>> for Libre Writer and Word, especially Word >> 2003? >>>>>>> The chart would show how a task is done in Word >> and then next to it >>>>>>> would reveal how that task is done in Libre >> Writer. >>>>>>> Thanks so much, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charles. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >>>>> Problems? >>>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived >> and cannot be deleted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > > >-- >For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
