Hi :) I thought we were aiming at ones that look as simple as possible and don't have a lot of features. Gimp and inkscape are hugely powerful but because of that they are a bit complicated. MyPaint might be ok, it sounds like it might be simple. Krita sounds like a KDE app but apart from that the name doesn't give much away about it's likely complexity/power.
I might have to try Krita but of the rest i would put Gimp in 1st place and then i'm not sure if i would put Inkscape or Draw in at 2nd. The other would be 3rd. I've not heard of Pinta either so i guess i should try it out someday. Gimp does waaay more than i need. I probably use about 1% of it's functionality, maybe not even that much! Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knu...@gmail.com> >To: LibreO - Users Global <users@global.libreoffice.org> >Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013, 15:11 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free >MSO alternative is not LO > > >2013/6/9 Tom Davies <tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>: >> Hi :) >> There are a lot of very simple drawing programs on Gnu&Linux; gpaint (a bit >> like "Paint" in Windows accessories), gnome-paint, apparently mtpaint is as >> bit less simple and good for photos but still very basic. > >The Linux magazine ”Linux Format” compared image editors in their >LXF171 issue. The combatants were GIMP, Inkscape, Krita, MyPaint and >Pinta. MyPaint won the user interface round, but was worst in a few >categories, such as text support, user interface customisability, >multimedia and animation. ”Winner” was Krita, then Inkscape, Gimp, >MyPaint and Pinta. > > > >Johnny Rosenberg > >> >> >> Draw is excellent, especially for what you were using it for. The arrows >> problem could have been solved in gimp by creating a 2nd layer and then put >> the arrow in there. Then keep an original in xcf format and save as png, or >> gif (or even jpg if you must) for sharing. However, Draw was probably the >> best choice to keep it simple! >> Regards from >> >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Girvin R. Herr <girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net> >>>To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster <webmas...@krackedpress.com> >>>Cc: LibreO - Users Global <users@global.libreoffice.org> >>>Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2013, 19:36 >>>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free >>>MSO alternative is not LO >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: >>>> On 06/07/2013 03:50 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: >>>>> <snip> >>>>>> >>>>>> I need to relearn the interface for Paint Shop Pro X5, when I used >>>>>> version 5 since the XP days. But since I can not get v5 to install >>>>>> on Win7 Home Premium that my laptop has, I had to upgrade it and >>>>>> relearn the new interface. Same with PSP 5 or X5 vs. GIMP. The >>>>>> time it takes to relearn how to do the things that comes very easily >>>>>> to me with the old interface, well it is very frustrating to say the >>>>>> least and has taken 2 to 5 times longer to do the things I want/need >>>>>> to do. >>>>> Ahh! The Gimp. Great program and I do have some use for it. >>>>> However, learning it has a _steep_ learning curve for me and, >>>>> frankly, sitting at the screen and reading the online manual is not >>>>> what I would prefer using my limited time for. There are several >>>>> "learning" books out there, but which one is the best one I need to >>>>> learn The Gimp? That is my problem with it. Once or twice I fiddled >>>>> with it and got it to do somewhat what I wanted, but it wasn't very >>>>> intuitive and I feel it could do so much more for me. If I could >>>>> just get a good book on it and sit down and play with it... >>>>> Girvin Herr >>>>> >>>>> <snip> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes GIMP has a steep learning curve. As for learning curves, ever try >>>> to use Photoshop? >>>No. >>>> Now that has a steep learning curve if you have not dealt with such a >>>> package before. PSP5 was so easy to use and learn, plus it had >>>> everything I wanted or needed for my work. >>>> >>>> Also GIMP does not have all of the "filters" that I had with Paint >>>> Shop Pro 5 [or the new X5]. >>>> >>>> If there was an easier and/or better graphics program that I could use >>>> with Ubuntu 12.05, then I would give it a try. >>>> >>>> Sometimes the books I have seen in the stores, or online, seem to be >>>> written by and for the graphic artist, and not those of us who need it >>>> for the more simple things, like repairing old photos or dealing with >>>> simple pixel-based graphics. >>>Right on! That's all I need it for. A while back I tried to add arrow >>>lines to a photo as an experiment to document where components were on a >>>project. I couldn't get The Gimp to do it, though I was sure it could. >>>In The Gimp, I could add the lines, but since it was not a vector (two >>>end points), I could not move those lines if I needed to squeeze in >>>another line beside it, unless I erased each and every pixel. I ended >>>up using LO Draw, which is a vector drawing program, not a bitmap >>>drawing program like The Gimp! It did a fine job and I was even able to >>>add an underlying, slightly wider white line to enhance the readability >>>of the black line over dark photo imagery. How many Gimp books must I >>>buy and dispose of before I get one that is basic enough for me (i.e. >>>"Gimp for Dummies?") >>>> for all [most] vector-based graphics, I use Inkscape. I have not >>>> really sat down and learned Draw for these things, yet. I am so use >>>> to Corel Draw 11, Inkscape is similar enough to use, is I am using >>>> Ubuntu. I have Corel Draw 11 on a Win7 laptop. >>>I am very familiar with LO Draw. I use it a lot to draw diagrams in >>>technical manuals. Draw does have some quirks, but it is fairly easy to >>>use and productive. I am still learning things about it, such as >>>freezing areas by putting them on a separate layer and making it >>>unchangeable (unselectable?). That is required to allow inner objects >>>to be selected without selecting a larger outer object. I generally use >>>it as an embedded object in a Writer document, which has even more >>>quirks. For some reason, the embedded Draw is a subset of the >>>stand-alone Draw. For instance, zoom is not supported in the embedded >>>version, so it gets difficult sometimes to work on a small object or >>>grid. I have also found some quirks about scaling and adjusting >>>locations in the embedded version. It can get really squirrelly >>>sometimes. For example, if I try to enlarge the drawing in the embedded >>>Draw by dragging the tags, nothing will happen. Then all of a sudden, >>>the drawing will greatly enlarge, clipping the edges, and I cannot get >>>it back to full extents again. As I said, squirrelly. I discovered the >>>adjustments in the object frame properties to be helpful there. >>>> >>>> I just wish I really had the time to sit down and "play" with the >>>> packages, GIMP, Draw, and others, with a good book of instructions to >>>> help walk me through the processes. >>>Ahh! There's the rub. I have the same problem. I usually start >>>reading up on something to address a need, get distracted by something >>>of higher priority, and then never get back to the book. Sometimes the >>>original need goes away and it isn't so bad. Other times, I just don't >>>get back to the problem. For example, I started reading up on Java a >>>few months ago in order to learn enough about it to fix some non-fatal >>>bugs in a database Report Generator (RG) I am using instead of the LO >>>Base Oracle Report Builder (ORB), which I find too buggy to use. I got >>>into chapter 2, got torn away from it by other priorities, and now that >>>book is still on my coffee table gathering dust. I have no idea when I >>>will ever get back to it. Probably when I next use the RG and get >>>irritated with the bugs. >>> >>>Girvin Herr >>> >>>-- >>>To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>>Problems? >>>http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>>All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>>deleted >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
