Thanks for the comments. Yes, Ubuntu seems especially aggressive with "out with the old" mentality in spite of having released named "Long Term Support".
No, the boxes are not old- they are Dell Zino, Zotac, and Asus boxes purchased within the three, two, and one year, approximately, respectively. They are AMD64 low-power APU devices with integrated Radeon. My impression is that Debian has a much better record with regards to preventing regression, so I'm probably going to test with them. I probably won't be switching to anything that's not dpkg-based unless there's a compelling reason- it would mess with too many scripts. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Girvin Herr <girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Greetings, > I have been reading this thread, but since I do not use Ubuntu, I have no > direct experience to add to this discussion. However, I may make one > suggestion: check the age of your video card and computer. I use Slackware > Linux and I have had KDE4 (QT-based) and xfce (GTK-based) desktop stability > problems for the last 3 or 4 Slackware releases. My computer and its ATI > Radeon AGP video card were over 10 years old. I recently upgraded my > computer to 2-year old technology and used an ATI 4350 PCI Express video > card and the stability problems went away. I suspect that the Linux devs no > longer have access to the old hardware (AGP in this case) and do not test > the new code with it. Therefore, it is a crap shot for new Linux versions > to fully function with old hardware. > > As a footnote: After the upgrade, I took the old computer and went from 1GB > to 3GB of RAM, but that alone did not solve the desktop stability problems. > Switching from the old ATI AGP to an even older Nvidia AGP I had lying > around, and switching from the default nouveau driver, because it would not > find the old card, to the "nv" driver, got the old system working stably > again. But it is a "bailing wire" approach and is destined to fail in the > future. > > HTH. > Girvin Herr > > > > On 01/22/2014 09:02 PM, Tony Godshall wrote: >> >> 10.04 LTS is lucid. We never went to gnome 3 since it broke too many >> workflows. We looked at cinnamon and mate and they made our workstations >> unstable. It's weird that an application could disrupt the ui as much as >> we're seeing. Our users are used to their workstations staying up for >> months and installing libre office has been much more disruptive than a >> simple application install should have been. >> On Jan 21, 2014 6:53 PM, "Jay Lozier" <jsloz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 01/21/2014 07:00 PM, Tony Godshall wrote: >>> >>>> This seems to be directly correlated to the install of LibreOffice 4.1. >>>> >>>> OS is Ubuntu Linux 10.04 LTS 32-bit. Hardware varies- mostly AMD64 >>>> dual-core E350 and E450. >>>> >>>> I'm trying to confirm other issues- users have reported it's happens >>>> more when using toolbar things like color background of cell to >>>> yellow. >>>> >>>> I've confirmed panels going away and panels going transparent. >>>> >>>> Some users have figured out that they can choose Log Out and then just >>>> cancel and get their environment back. Clicking Log Out is a >>>> challenge but doable when the panel disappears- tooltips show where >>>> the buttons are. >>>> >>>> I've also found out that I can ssh in, su - to the user, kill >>>> gnome-panel, and then relaunch it, and that also restores their >>>> desktop to function. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tony, >>> >>> This is Gnome 2 on Maverick? I am not sure if anyone here knows enough >>> about gnome-panel to answer you. >>> >>> Have you tried the Ubuntu or Gnome forums? >>> >>> -- >>> Jay Lozier >>> jsloz...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- >>> unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >>> > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- -- Best Regards. This is unedited. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
