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From: libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 6:40
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Shortcut changes

James E. Lang wrote:
> I am not a user of Base but I am a frequent user of Calc. Shortcut changes 
> are extremely disruptive for users. My least favorite (most detested!!) such 
> change occurred in version 4.4 of Calc when Alt+E,I was assigned to a brand 
> new menu item in place of "Fill."

That one has caught me out a few times in Calc; I've even lost work because of 
it a few times. Alt+E, I, D used to fill down. Now it reopens the file in 
read-only edit mode,

[I also used to use Alt+E, I, R; Alt+E, I, L; or Alt+E, I, U to fill right, 
left, or up respectively. Read-only edit mode sounds to me like a self 
contradictory phrase and having it activated instead of fill is certainly 
disruptive. -- jl]

without saving changes (it does prompt, but the final D selects "Don't Save") 
Yes, I know there's also Ctrl+D to fill down, but for some reason I'm used to 
Alt+E, I, D and automatically type that.

If they wanted to use Alt+E, I for Edit Mode, I don't really see why it 
couldn't have been done the same as in other menus where several options share 
the same letter. e.g. in Calc Alt+I brings up the insert menu, then H selects 
between "Hyperlink" and "Headers and Footers" and you have to press Enter on 
the one you want.

[That seems like a reasonable suggestion. -- jl]

For what it's worth, the problem of changing shortcuts is not unique to 
LibreOffice. In MS Outlook 2003, Ctrl+S saved a draft of an email, while in 
Outlook 2007 Ctrl+S sent it without any further confirmation. Fortunately I 
never accidentally sent anything more embarrassing than a half-finished 
response as a result (at least, I don't think I did...)

[I repeat that changing shortcuts disrupts user productivity regardless who 
does it: MS or LO. I hope developers are taking notice. I don't know whether 
any of them lurk (or even actively participate) on this users list. If not then 
I hope someone harvests ideas from this list and summarizes them for the 
developers. I think a bug report might be overkill but maybe not. Does anyone 
care to weigh in on this? -- jl]

Mark.

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Jim
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